Do you have a table at Central States? Are you a show sponsor? If not, maybe reconsider?
MrEureka
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I have a table but I'm not a sponsor. In reviewing the show schedule, I see that sponsors can enter the bourse at 8 AM on Thursday, Friday and Saturday. Other table holders have to wait until 9 AM.
Although I don't like this arrangement, I respect the CSNS's Board's right to run the show however they see fit. So I figured I'd check out the list of sponsors to see if it might be worth paying the extra fee to do business for an extra hour a day with other sponsors. If you're in a similar position - a table holder who has not paid extra to be a show sponsor - you might want to do as I just did and check out the list of other sponsors here: https://www.centralstatesnumismaticsociety.org/sponsors
Andy Lustig
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FWIW, if the CSNS needs to pull in some extra money one way or another, I would think that it would be better for the show if they simply charged all dealers a modestly higher bourse fee instead of trying to get more sponsors. That way, the bourse wouldn't be 90% empty for the first hour of every day. Am I missing something?
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I am a life member of CSNS and was planning to attend this convention this year for the first time in about 15 years. Unfortunately, it came at a bad time, but I will be there next year. One of the best coin shows in the country.
As for the sponsorship, I looked at the form and it looks like you can get it for $250 (general sponsorship). That's not bad. I agree that they could easily add $50/table or so and get more of a financial impact for CSNS. Maybe a combination of both?
Don’t ask me what I think and experienced with that greedy association! Cost them from me supporting their show for over 20 years after my first experience setting up at their show.
That is a short list compared to booth holders.
In order get the benefits of being a sponsor, not only do you need to fork over the extra cash, but you also have to get yourself going early enough in the morning to get to the bourse by 8, making for long days when it closes at 6:30.
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And you need the others you want to see to do the same. It's of no use if you want to see someone who can't (or won't) get in that early.
Sounds similar to the "Early Bird Special" at many big coin shows except it's only for dealers.
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How many businesses listed on that page of sponsors are actually coin dealers? It appears as though a lot of the sponsors are associations, which may mean a dry bourse for those dealers hoping to do early business.
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But the early bird usually lets in all the dealers. I went to an early bird 2 weekends ago, and it was great because the bourse traffic was light, but just about all the dealers were set up (or setting up). I'd be pretty annoyed to pay extra to go early and find that only 10 or 20% of the dealers are present. It's like paying to get in early at Disney, but finding out that all the good rides are closed.
It's like paying to get in early at Disney, but finding out that all the good rides are closed.
No comment.
Does this have to do with bourse fees and flights cancelled due to Covid?
No! This was well over 20 years ago! A friend and I decided at the last minute to try the show. Gave Dickhead a call....had to fax me an app and talked like if he didn't get payment to him before the show we wouldn't get a table. I get the ap....and noticed they required a tax number which I didn't have or need in Ga. so I called. Worked that out and in my rush to priority mail the app I forgot to put our names in the section for badges. Keep in mind we both had to join and pay dues. Get to the show and only I had a badge since I sent the app in. They made us pay $50 for our 2nd badge. Dickhead wouldn't talk to me and sent his witch out to deal with us! Greedy, Greedy, Greedy!
I share a table with a dealer friend, and I would not consider paying more money to be a show sponsor. They nickel and dime every dealer that attends the show including the exhibitors. The extra hour to be on the floor isn't worth it for me especially when only a small number are participating. Besides the table fees have skyrocketed since the last show. The cost of the corner table that I share has went up almost 50% since the last show in 2019. Our money was held in 2020 because the virus shut everything down, and then again for 2021. We were supposed to have the same table as in 2019, but they moved us because of our now cheaper rate than the current 2022 table prices, which is not right to do on their part. There are some things that they have now included in the higher table fees like badges, but almost 50% higher, wow!!! I predict that they are going to lose some more dealers for next year and beyond.
Dickhead and witch are no longer on the payroll. Give the new regime a chance.
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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
6-1-20
The Central States Numismatic Society's board of governors has decided not to renew Convention Chairman Kevin Foley's contract, which expires June 30.
Foley served as convention general chairman for decades, guiding it to its semi-permanent home in Schaumburg, IL, in 2012 and more recently incorporating elements of the Chicago Coin Fair and the PCDA National Coin and Currency Convention into the Central States convention.
After considerable discussion during a video conference meeting May 30, the board thanked Foley for his service but voted to seek new convention leadership. President Mitch Ernst was tasked with searching for a successor.
The board also voted to eliminate the bourse chairman's position, currently held by Patricia Foley, as a cost-saving move.
Faced with a projected deficit in 2021, the board anticipates trimming convention expenses and replacing some paid staffers with volunteers in an attempt to bring the budget into balance.
Seems like strife and administrative shuffling affecting this venue. Too bad, there were a lot of good reports on this show in the past. Cheers, RickO