1964 sms penny

MrSHACK

Is this the real deal????
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MasonG

No.

MarkKelley

NO.

MrSHACK

My picture won’t work

MrSHACK

https://flic.kr/p/2nf3bKP

MrSHACK

https://flic.kr/p/2nf3sFt
https://flic.kr/p/2nf3sFo
https://flic.kr/p/2nf5PPy

MasonG

@MrSHACK said:
My picture won’t work

A picture is not really necessary. If you look up the history of this coin (or do a search on this forum), you will find out why.

MasonG

Why do you think it's not a regular 1964 cent?

MrSHACK

@MasonG said:
Why do you think it's not a regular 1964 cent?

It has satin shinny finish as a proof coin should

MasonG

@MrSHACK said:

@MasonG said:
Why do you think it's not a regular 1964 cent?

It has satin shinny finish as a proof coin should

SMS coins are not proofs. And still no- your coin is not one. What you have is a regular circulation issue 1964 cent. There are over 2 1/2 billion of them.

FlyingAl

Enough of these threads come up I created a full response to copy and paste:

Any coin that you may have that seems to be a 1964 SMS coin is not. It will never be one. Why?

All 1964 SMS coins are in collector hands, slabbed or something of that equivalent. The ONLY way to obtain a 1964 SMS coin is to buy one already labeled as such. Any person who claims that you can indeed find one is lying. All such 1964 coins were coins struck off of new dies and were saved by Eva Adams, the mint director. As such, they display full details of the new die and the satin surfaces to go along with it.

This was a common mint practice, it is coincidental that we only have the 1964 coins able to collect. The Smithsonian also received coins of the same quality from the 1950s - 1970s, all of which were fresh strikes from new dies and they are nearly identical in all ways to these 1964 SMS coins. They were identical to new circulation coins from new dies, in that they had the die polish and satin surfaces of new dies and the full details of a new die. This alone resulted in a distinctive appearance.

There were a few dozen sets all sold at Eva Adam’s estate sale and all of the coins that are labeled 1964 come from that sale and have heavy documentation from it. We know that ALL of the 1964 SMS coins are discovered because we know which coins came from that sale. All of those coins sold were taken and slabbed or put into collections with heavy documentation where the owners knew exactly what they had. None were released into circulation.

It is likely that the mint continued to use the dies after these SMS coins were made, but once those coins were released into circulation, they became as ordinary as any other coin. The only thing that makes a SMS coin what it is was that it was carefully preserved from the moment it left the dies and never saw circulation. The Eva Adam’s provenance is what makes a SMS coin what it is.

291fifth

I wonder how many dealers with stores get people walking in the door with "1964 SMS coins"?

Jzyskowski1

@291fifth said:
I wonder how many dealers with stores get people walking in the door with "1964 SMS coins"?

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MasonG

Ate there any YouTube videos telling people they can get rich finding 1804 dollars in rolls? There's probably the same.e chance of that happening as finding 1964 SMS coins.

jonathanb

@MasonG said:
Ate there any YouTube videos telling people they can get rich finding 1804 dollars in rolls? There's probably the same.e chance of that happening as finding 1964 SMS coins.

Higher. If a 1804 dollar got into a roll, at least it could be authenticated after the fact.

ricko

@MrSHACK ... Welcome aboard. Your cent is NOT an SMS. Definitely not. Reasons outlined above. Cheers, RickO