How in the world is this coin VF30?
BustHalfBrian
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Isn't this F15 at best? I've graded nicer ones that didn't even break VF20. This coin doesn't even have full LIBERTY and the lowest wing feather is incomplete. What say you?
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I agree. I think F15 is correct ...not VF at all.
i could see vf20 but absolutely not vf30
Yeah, looks 20 max. Maybe weak strike?
I thought so too but these late date phillys are supposed to come nice!
Scratches on the back of Ms. Liberty's head too??
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It would appear so!
Here's the last 30 I sold. Nothing else needs to be said!
Mechanical error? Hit the three instead of the two when typing up the label perhaps?
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Interesting theory! Something went wrong, that's for sure.
Now that's more like it!
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F12 obverse, F15 reverse.
F15
Dave
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Of course it’s VF30, can’t you read the label? 🤔
A: The year they spend more on their library than their coin collection.
A numismatist is judged more on the content of their library than the content of their cabinet.
F15, maybe stretch to VF20.
dangit i got so caught up in the grading (can't see the forest for the trees) that i forgot to say, what a pleasant looking barber half. once you take your finger and gently rub off that cheek dirt (i've done it many times).
because it is ONLY an opinion....
I would grade it a 20, I think 15 is a bit harsh... But that is why they call grades 'opinions'. Might rain today... might not.
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I'm an old school grader but I'd be hard pressed to even go 15.
Or the Professional Encapsulator Engineer (slab guy) couldn't read the grader's notes! Is that a 58 or a 63? When in doubt, don't question it, just enter the higher number!
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If you rub off the cheek, does that rub off on the grade?
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mistakes happen even in grading coins
no matter the grade it's a pretty nice coin
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I would feel 20 rather than the 30. But I'm not a Barber collector, so I could be missing something.
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Between the cleaning, the abundance of wear and the rim damage...not a 30 in my world.
What about the scratches, wouldn't that drop down the grade a few points?
not sure what you are asking but i do it gently and it is a personal preference. just a bunch of gunk buildup, usually seems to come from being in with a lot of other coins in a bag/tub or whatever for a while and comes off pretty easily. most people probably don't thin it is a big deal.
Easier and safer to do it with acetone and a cotton swab!
They supposedly separate the VF grades based on feathers on the wingtips, since there aren't any, I wouldn't think over 20.
if you could remove the acne on the cheek it would then be as graded
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If I were selling it, it's a 30 all day long. If I'm buying it, the coin was graded on the same day of the PCGS office party, if you know what I mean (or at least that's how I envision the discussion going at any given dealer's table).
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F-12 to my eye
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Maybe they forgot to put the divided by 2 under the grade...
It's a 15 to me on a good day.
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2 graders called in sick that day.
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The sad part is that coin sold for a price based on the plastic....not the coin!
That's a she?
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It has nice original surfaces and has original "crust". Also it is generally lacking any noticeable scratches and dings. I would be inclined to call it VF20.
Market Grading the coin is F12 aka F12 money.
Do I need glasses or is there something wrong with the shield lines on OP's coin?
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F-12 to my eye
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why do the shield lines look like this on the coin originally posted?
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Interesting as I see the same thing. But if I open image in new tab I see normal lines.
Weird. Some kind of digital artifact perhaps
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Counterfeit holder perhaps?
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Appears to me the grade was a mistake and a "gift" to the submitter. Or a mechanical error. It happens, but fortunately, not often.