Bid cancelation on eBay
ZoidMeister
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So an "esteemed" member of this forum just canceled ANOTHER bid of mine on a listing that presumably was getting to close to the end and not drawing a pricing level that was "acceptable" to him.
I wouldn't say anything, but this is the SECOND time this rastafarian has done this to me.
He won't list with a reserve, he just cancels my legitimate bid, pulls the listing, and relists the exact same piece with a slightly different title.
I would love to see what reason was given for the cancelation, but the original listing is "poofed."
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There weren't any issues with the original item. No copyright infringement, no prohibited items lacking a COPY stamp, nothing that would cause ebay to pull it.
As a matter of fact, the exact same item has been relisted for sale.
What recourse do I have with this rat bastige that keeps canceling by bids?
Z
Busy chasing Carr's . . . . . woof!
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It stinks but unfortunately you have little recourse. You could mess with the seller in several ways but it's always best to take the high road and just stop bidding on their auctions.
Sad to have to go through life being that kind of person. Hopefully they get what they deserve.
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I'll drop a 10% feeler bid on anything I'm interested in. If I win, at least I bid higher than the last guy.
That trinket peddler needs to man up and grow a pair . . . .
Z
Busy chasing Carr's . . . . . woof!
Successful BST transactions with: Bullsitter, Downtown1974, P0CKETCHANGE, Twobitcollector, AKbeez, DCW, Illini420, ProofCollection, DCarr, Cazkaboom, RichieURich, LukeMarshall, carew4me, BustDMs, coinsarefun, PreTurb, felinfoal, jwitten, GoldenEgg, pruebas, lazybones, COCollector, CuKevin, MWallace, USMC_6115, NamVet69, zippcity, . . . . who'd I forget?
The seller certainly should. No one is making them run no reserve auctions. Just start the item at the minimum needed amount or do a buy it now.
What succs for him is that he canceled the auction and my bid just before my snipe was set to hit.
No snipe on the relist . . . .
I'll still drop a 10% feeler bid though. Make him do it again.
Z
Busy chasing Carr's . . . . . woof!
Successful BST transactions with: Bullsitter, Downtown1974, P0CKETCHANGE, Twobitcollector, AKbeez, DCW, Illini420, ProofCollection, DCarr, Cazkaboom, RichieURich, LukeMarshall, carew4me, BustDMs, coinsarefun, PreTurb, felinfoal, jwitten, GoldenEgg, pruebas, lazybones, COCollector, CuKevin, MWallace, USMC_6115, NamVet69, zippcity, . . . . who'd I forget?
out the slime ball..........
if you don't want to....... tell me so I can avoid the low life in the future
Could be worse. You could have won and paid, and then had the hassle of getting your money back when "something happened" and he couldn't ship the coin.
no dog in this fight. just posting info.
i didn't know bid history was removed on listingings ended by seller (along with bid cancellation reason)
IIRC, sellers are docked one way or another for repeated ended listings, no? if it has bids, they have to pay the FVF and kinda like bidders have unpaid item strikes, sellers get dinged for too many ended with bids?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/194926704620
There's no FVF of you cancel all bids.
I don’t know about punishment if you abuse the system (eBay frowns on a lot of things they never manage to punish users for doing) but yes, they do charge the FVF based on the current price when a listing is ended early. At least in the past (not sure about current) they’d give one freebie a year to each seller, which was stupid because it ignored volume. I’ve only taken listings down because I made an actual mistake (typo, wrong photo, etc) and admittedly it sucks when I get charged for the privilege of fixing it so a buyer isn’t angry later. Once a listing has a bid it can’t be edited, so if there are any bids before an error is caught, there’s a fee to fix it. The one workaround is to have a friend place a high bid, end the listing to sell to them (which is legal), and then cancel the sale, which refunds the fee. This probably wouldn’t be necessary if eBay recognized that a seller who lists thousands of items a year is likely going to make more honest mistakes than someone who lists just a handful.
That's never been an issue . . . .
Money back is easy.
Z
Busy chasing Carr's . . . . . woof!
Successful BST transactions with: Bullsitter, Downtown1974, P0CKETCHANGE, Twobitcollector, AKbeez, DCW, Illini420, ProofCollection, DCarr, Cazkaboom, RichieURich, LukeMarshall, carew4me, BustDMs, coinsarefun, PreTurb, felinfoal, jwitten, GoldenEgg, pruebas, lazybones, COCollector, CuKevin, MWallace, USMC_6115, NamVet69, zippcity, . . . . who'd I forget?
If you want to be equally petty, create a dummy account, place nuclear bids on a few items and don't pay.
Or, since life is short, just ignore him for all eternity.
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depends on the error. used to be that there was an edited section at the bottom of the listing for revisions but i think that doesn't do any good for erroneous titles/pics etc.
since the anonymous system, can't even send bidders an explanation for good will.
if no fee is charged with auction listings that were ended early with bids, it has changed again.
i do like the end listing early, to sell to high bidder on items that have been getting no opening bids and when someone bites, i just end it there. never a problem, yet.
Not bidding is easier.
Point being, I rarely check to see who a seller is before bidding. As long as the shipping charges aren't exorbitant, I have no reason to check who it is or where they are shipping from.
Sometimes you can tell automatically who it is from their photos or listing prose.
As a seller, I am more concerned with who the buyers are than knowing who the seller is as a buyer. With the affinity fleaBay has for buyers, unless the seller is overseas, who cares who it is?
Z
Busy chasing Carr's . . . . . woof!
Successful BST transactions with: Bullsitter, Downtown1974, P0CKETCHANGE, Twobitcollector, AKbeez, DCW, Illini420, ProofCollection, DCarr, Cazkaboom, RichieURich, LukeMarshall, carew4me, BustDMs, coinsarefun, PreTurb, felinfoal, jwitten, GoldenEgg, pruebas, lazybones, COCollector, CuKevin, MWallace, USMC_6115, NamVet69, zippcity, . . . . who'd I forget?
Just happened to me on a hard to get 92 O Barber Dime. I bought another, so evidently not too awful hard to get.
Happened last month on a different seller's bid. Thought I had won a nice prize, but then the message.
Jim
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I didn't know this is how the bay worked. Good to learn.
Maybe you should start. Not so much in coins or on eBay, but there are some people I'd prefer not to do business with. For example, the unidentified dealer who offered $500 below spot for a gold Kennedy. If I find a dealer (of anything) who seems to engage in unethical business practices, I go out of my way to avoid giving him money.
Is he from Jamaica?
Did you mean "rapscallion"?
That works as well.
Having made the acquaintance of several members of the rasta persuasion, the olfactory presence is what I was going for . . .
Ratsazz is another adequate term as well . . .
All this thread has done is to give visibility to the rapscallion scoundrels listing. I'm out. I suggest everyone bow out.
Let's see if the current high bidder enjoys his bid cancelation any more than I did.
Z
Busy chasing Carr's . . . . . woof!
Successful BST transactions with: Bullsitter, Downtown1974, P0CKETCHANGE, Twobitcollector, AKbeez, DCW, Illini420, ProofCollection, DCarr, Cazkaboom, RichieURich, LukeMarshall, carew4me, BustDMs, coinsarefun, PreTurb, felinfoal, jwitten, GoldenEgg, pruebas, lazybones, COCollector, CuKevin, MWallace, USMC_6115, NamVet69, zippcity, . . . . who'd I forget?
No reason? Then what's the point of this thread?
Then what's the point of this thread?
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If something a seller does is going to upset you enough to start a thread about it, you have a reason to check who they are before you bid.
Just sayin'.
Try bidding on my trinkets. I promise I won't stop you.
I looked at the link above. I guess you can't see cancelled auctions in the completed listings.
Misery loves company . . . .
Z
Busy chasing Carr's . . . . . woof!
Successful BST transactions with: Bullsitter, Downtown1974, P0CKETCHANGE, Twobitcollector, AKbeez, DCW, Illini420, ProofCollection, DCarr, Cazkaboom, RichieURich, LukeMarshall, carew4me, BustDMs, coinsarefun, PreTurb, felinfoal, jwitten, GoldenEgg, pruebas, lazybones, COCollector, CuKevin, MWallace, USMC_6115, NamVet69, zippcity, . . . . who'd I forget?
I used to buy from a seller that did that all the time. I still got good cherrypicks from the seller because he had crappy pictures. I would even win some of the items he would end early and re-list.
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