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Coin grading software
2022
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I have several coins I'd like to submit to PCGS. Is there coin grading software to help me pre-screen my submissions or will my visual acuity combined with online resources be sufficient?
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we cannot assess your level of numismatic grading prowess but i think with this being your first post and us now knowing you, at all, i'd say if you have to ask, better err on the side of caution. if it is your first submission and you are submitting a few/several coins, round trip, it can easily run you $200-300 or more. they get cheaper afterwards since the first time you have to purchsae a membership that lasts a year. READ the submission protocol carefully to prevent delays in your order.
Learn how to grade before submitting anything. This is how to save money.
Welcome to the forum!
If you can post clear photos here there is a good chance we can give an idea of the grade.
AT apparently is a long way off. The human eyes, especially experienced ones here will tell you all you need to know.
Short answer is no and no.
Longer, if a bit snarky, answer is that while some will say there is good AI grading software, it's still mostly no better than comparing photos and learning to grade from them, thus still in the gimmick phase. As to your visual acuity and online resources, if you have to ask, the answer is no.
Post what you have here and you'll get some sound advice on how to proceed.
Keeper of the VAM Catalog • Professional Coin Imaging • Prime Number Set • World Coins in Early America • British Trade Dollars
Learn how to grade first and the test will take care of itself. Have a nice day 👍
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i've been trying to recall/find whom it was that used to say or perhaps they had it in their sig, "buy the book BEFORE the coin."
your post reminded me about that.
This will be a good start for you. Do a search…. For “photograde
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Click on what type coin you are interested in.
If you are new to coins and attempting to send pieces to PCGS then I have a much easier solution for you that will leave you with the same amount of disposable income-
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
Post excellent photos here and you will get your answer
Yes, there is an impressive coin grading software solution and it is FREE. You simply take photos of a few coins and post them here. You will get solid advice and it could save you a lot of money.
Welcome to the PCGS forum.
PCGS has an array of wonderful apps (including the one that Herb_T mentioned above) that can be used as a learning tool.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/dev?id=7648040954584409835&hl=en_US&gl=US
You can then confirm your level of understanding by taking them to a coin show where there is on-site grading.
I was trying to teach my teenage son about grading using these tools and took my lower end coins to an Anacs rep at a show because it only cost 10$ per coin for slabbing while reserving the higher end ones for our hosts.
Have fun and all the best.
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/u-s-coins/quarters/PCGS-2020-quarter-quest/album/247091
@2022... Welcome aboard. My advice is to heed the advice given above. Post some good pictures here with your guess about the grade. Members will provide input and why the coin is the grade they assess. It is a learning process, so be patient. Cheers, RickO
I wonder if anyone has done a comparative test to see which software works best? What AI can do seems to be beyond belief in so many areas already.
Thank you for your offers to help with this. The reason I ask is I have several rolls of 1973-S proof Jefferson nickels and many appear to be PR70. Would these be worthwhile submissions?
So our host has graded nearly 6000 73-S nickels in PR69 (worth about $10) and just 10 in PR70 (worth about $2500). Odds are against you that you’ll get any $2500 coins and likely a bunch on $10 coins at best.
See my previous post-
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
Now that you have identified what you are considering to have graded about 90% of all the above advice is of little help. I doubt anyone here from posted photos can tell you which, if any of the nickels would qualify as Proof 70 instead of Proof 69. Also doubt any AI software is capable of making that distinction either.
Maybe if you took the nickels to a show and found some nickel experts they could by seeing them in person at least tell you which ones are not worth submitting. It might even help if they do the submitting. Sounds like a gamble in the end but if you pull out the culls it might be worth the effort even if one grades as Proof 70.
On the other hand if multiples grade Proof 70 it is likely that the values will drop since the price is currently propped up by the present scarcity and who knows if there are more than 10 Registry Set seekers who are in the market for a Proof 70 nickel for that year?
If you are interested in learning how to grade, the ANA will be offering grading classes in Colorado Springs in June at Summer Seminar. With that being said, the initial class that you would take would not go into Proof 69/70 Jefferson nickels.
Can you explain why do you think they're PR70 instead of PR69? Can you explain the differences between those grades? Can you explain the difference between PR69 and PR67?
If the answer to any of those questions is "no," then you have your answer to your initial question.
Keeper of the VAM Catalog • Professional Coin Imaging • Prime Number Set • World Coins in Early America • British Trade Dollars
If they are actually in rolls they are probably rejects from someone going through a lot of sets trying to make 70s. Even if they haven’t been, they have probably been mishandled. You would probably be lucky to get the 69s.
I've been working on a Python script that uses a convolutional neural network to compare a Morgan coin photo against the PCGS Photograde images. It's hit or miss at this stage, but here's some pictures of it hitting or missing.
https://ibb.co/b71MLF7
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A very helpful way to spend a weekend:
1) pick a copper, a silver and a modern series of coins that you like and wish to collect.
2) log on to ebay and pick 10 examples of each series of these and copy them
3) log on to Photograde(free) and compare the coins to see what you would have graded them versus what photograde says
By the time you do this over a weekend you will be able to start truly learning about grading coins. Obviously, inhand evaluation of coins is necessary to become better at grading as photos can be misleading, either intentional or accidentally. While time consuming it is nothing to the time most of the board members here have spent learning the art. After you have considered what you would grade a specific coin or coins, then present the photos here and see how you compare to educated specialists as to the grades. Best of luck and welcome to the forum. Always ask why a forum member grades your offering specifically, then listen and absorb. Greatest free form of education available in the hobby.
Jim
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@2022 waiting for photos
Curiously got me!