HK-Unlisted So-Called Dollar Tracking Thread

Zoins

This thread is to keep track of HK-Unlisted So-Called Dollars for events that are listed in HK. John Raymond @JRay123 has a great website to do this but not all pieces are listed on his website, so this thread is a supplement.

Here's John's website: https://www.socalleddollar.com/aaUnlisteds.html

We'll start off with this 13mm gold dollar sized 1883 German American Bicentennial medal. I have a holed specimen which I've mentioned in a few threads as a SCD candidate but finally got around to tracking down an unholed specimen here. Now I just need to find one!

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/exonumia-1883-german-american-medal-1881998993

1883 German American Medal (#7999) BiCentennial Medal. Nice Unc. 13MM.

Here's my specimen:

Here's my 35mm HK-597 from the event and two 32mm official medals from the event, which could also be included since HK includes many other 32mm medals

pcgscacgold

@Zoins Very interesting pieces. Thanks for the early Saturday morning read.

Zoins

@pcgscacgold said:
@Zoins Very interesting pieces. Thanks for the early Saturday morning read.

Thanks! I love So-Called Dollars because the events they celebrate take us deep into history and what times were like in the past! It's interesting to think that German American Day was launched in 1883 and lasted until WWI at which time it was cancelled due to reaction to Germans in America and it wasn't started again until 1983!

Imagine that these 1883 pieces look quite similar to medals we strike today, but this is before the first gas car was created in 1885!

https://www.motorbiscuit.com/when-was-the-first-car-made-turns-out-the-automobile-is-older-than-the-united-states/

Zoins

Here's a NGC MS65 that I wish I found!

Zoins

Here are some nice photos of Eglit-20 which certainly seems to qualify as a SCD, but is not listed in HK.

It is listed in John Raymond's SCD catalog as SCD-246:

@jray123 said:
146) Two small busts. Souvenir Medal around above. World's Columbian Exposition Chicago around below. 1492 1898 above within inner circle. Columbus and C.W.G. Ferris above busts. The Ferris Wheel Dimensions in four curved lines. Height 264 Feet Weight 4300 Tons Capacity 2160 Persons Engines 2000 Horse Power below within inner circle. Rv: Ferris wheel within inner circle. Ferris Wheel around above. Greatest Mechanical Achievement Of The Age around below. /// Scarce / Aluminum / 38.1 mm / Eglit20. Neither side of this piece is pictured anywhere in HK. (IMAGE)

Slab photos courtesy of moss_mine_treasures.

Pioneer1

The Georgia State Fair first began in 1846 at Stone Mountain, but after the civil war, it permanently settled in Macon, GA, 60 miles southeast of Atlanta. The 1887 Georgia State Fair has a so-called dollar (HK-610) related to the event. Georgia is also featured on HK-595 from 1883 (separate post in this section). In addition to various exhibits, parades, and fair-related events, there was also a Confederate veteran reunion. Jefferson Davis was among the more prominent guests. Davis is riding in the carriage being drawn by the white horses in front of the Lanier House in the photo on Mulberry Street in Macon GA. The HK-610 so-called dollar seems interesting to me as a balance against the huge amount of GAR (grand army of the republic) medals/ribbons (with some so-calleds). Attached is an image of a 38mm lead medal (a confederate medal akin to the GAR items from the "union" army) made by Henning & Eyman NY. Numerous photographs of the GA state fair between 1886 and 1960 can be found at http://http://dlg.galileo.usg.edu/gastatefair/ ...and the fair lives on to this day, see: http://www.georgiastatefair.org

Zoins

@Pioneer1 said:

The Georgia State Fair first began in 1846 at Stone Mountain, but after the civil war, it permanently settled in Macon, GA, 60 miles southeast of Atlanta. The 1887 Georgia State Fair has a so-called dollar (HK-610) related to the event. Georgia is also featured on HK-595 from 1883 (separate post in this section). In addition to various exhibits, parades, and fair-related events, there was also a Confederate veteran reunion. Jefferson Davis was among the more prominent guests. Davis is riding in the carriage being drawn by the white horses in front of the Lanier House in the photo on Mulberry Street in Macon GA. The HK-610 so-called dollar seems interesting to me as a balance against the huge amount of GAR (grand army of the republic) medals/ribbons (with some so-calleds). Attached is an image of a 38mm lead medal (a confederate medal akin to the GAR items from the "union" army) made by Henning & Eyman NY. Numerous photographs of the GA state fair between 1886 and 1960 can be found at http://http://dlg.galileo.usg.edu/gastatefair/ ...and the fair lives on to this day, see: http://www.georgiastatefair.org

Interesting medal from interesting times.

Here's a book he wrote after he was released from prison:

Amazon wrote:
A decade after his release from federal prison, the 67-year-old Jefferson Davis--ex-president of the Confederacy, the "Southern Lincoln," popularly regarded as a martyr to the Confederate cause--began work on his monumental Rise and Fall of the Confederate Government. Motivated partially by his deep-rooted antagonism toward his enemies (both the Northern victors and his Southern detractors), partially by his continuing obsession with the "cause," and partially by his desperate pecuniary and physical condition, Davis devoted three years and extensive research to the writing of what he termed "an historical sketch of the events which preceded and attended the struggle of the Southern states to maintain their existence and their rights as sovereign communities." The result was a perceptive two-volume chronicle, covering the birth, life, and death of the Confederacy, from the Missouri Compromise in 1820, through the tumultuous events of the Civil War, to the readmission of the Southern states to the U.S. Congress in the late 1860s. Supplemented with a new historical foreword by the Pulitzer Prize-winning James M. McPherson, The Rise and Fall of the Confederate Government, Volume I belongs in the library of anyone interested in the root causes, the personalities, and the events of America's greatest war.

https://www.amazon.com/Rise-Fall-Confederate-Government/dp/0306804182/

Pioneer1

Thank you @Zoins ... fascinating.... thank you for the info.

Not to hijack the post topic... but many of the civil war items and southern medals / so-called dollars were engraved / produced in "the North" which makes sense given the disastrous damage in the SE USA after the civil war. One company that was very active in southern expos was William Warner & Bros... a topic for another post... but this area has numerous unlisted SCDs as one might expect for this post.

As for Henning & Eymann of New York ( A.J. Henning and J.E. Eymann ) for the Jefferson Davis medal referenced ... the late Dick Johnson had this link:
http://dickjohnsonsdatabank.com/eymann-je.html

.. with numerous medals engraved by Eymann look VERY similar to me .. including
https://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/4633408-015/61/

and the elusive HK-73 ...

I think they all look alike on the obverse engraving. Funny that many "HK unlisted" pieces look a lot like LISTED HK pieces.

What a great hobby to recognize the artistic similarities.

Zoins

@Pioneer1 said:
Thank you @Zoins ... fascinating.... thank you for the info.

Not to hijack the post topic... but many of the civil war items and southern medals / so-called dollars were engraved / produced in "the North" which makes sense given the disastrous damage in the SE USA after the civil war. One company that was very active in southern expos was William Warner & Bros... a topic for another post... but this area has numerous unlisted SCDs as one might expect for this post.

As for Henning & Eymann of New York ( J.A. Hyman and J.E. Eymann ) for the Jefferson Davis medal referenced ... the late Dick Johnson had this link:
http://dickjohnsonsdatabank.com/eymann-je.html

.. with numerous medals engraved by Eymann look VERY similar to me .. including
https://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/4633408-015/61/

and the elusive HK-73 ...

I think they all look alike on the obverse engraving. Funny that many "HK unlisted" pieces look a lot like LISTED HK pieces.

What a great hobby to recognize the artistic similarities.

Great pieces and history @Pioneer1! It would be great to be able to track all the William Warner pieces.

And I love the toning on HK-73!

Zoins

@Zoins said:
We'll start off with this 13mm gold dollar sized 1883 German American Bicentennial medal. I have a holed specimen which I've mentioned in a few threads as a SCD candidate but finally got around to tracking down an unholed specimen here. Now I just need to find one!

I ended up finding and picking up this unholed specimen in 2023!