How to screw up 4 nice coins!

Herb_T

What the heck!

lkenefic

Ouch! This is painful to look at... amazing die clash on the 1813 too...

OKbustchaser

Look like Mohawk Valley hoard coins. They were all hallmarked this way.

vplite99

The horror.

pursuitofliberty

@OKbustchaser said:
Look like Mohawk Valley hoard coins. They were all hallmarked this way.

I've always meant to ask this question. Is there a census of which dates have the marks? I know I have seen through 1815 (yes, really), and I think I have seen through 1819, but can't remember any later.

nevermind ... interesting read from back in the day
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/607175/bust-halves-mohawk-valley-hoard

Herb_T

@OKbustchaser said:
Look like Mohawk Valley hoard coins. They were all hallmarked this way.

They are. They will only get a details grade, correct?

jayPem

Gave this one a thought for a minute..
There are much more interesting counterstamps out there though, so gotta set priorities..

Herb_T

@jayPem said:
Gave this one a thought for a minute..
There are much more interesting counterstamps out there though, so gotta set priorities..

Wow!

LanceNewmanOCC

well. if i were asked if there were legit errors in that group, i would have been flat wrong apparently. not the 1813, that is obviously pmd.

Herb_T

So does anyone have an opinion why the 1815/2 sold for so much? I know that family has expensive coins anyways….

Kliao

Wow. Very sad.

pursuitofliberty

@Herb_T said:
So does anyone have an opinion why the 1815/2 sold for so much? I know that family has expensive coins anyways….

I'm sure like a lot of us, I also watched that coin. I had it as a strong Choice AU, less the countermark. Considering what a solid 55 goes for (at least 2x), and what a regular, decent 35/40 goes for (maybe a grand less on a good day), I'm not sure it was a giant stretch, or even a stretch at all.

My 4 bits

LanceNewmanOCC

@pursuitofliberty said:

@Herb_T said:
So does anyone have an opinion why the 1815/2 sold for so much? I know that family has expensive coins anyways….

I'm sure like a lot of us, I also watched that coin. I had it as a strong Choice AU, less the countermark. Considering what a solid 55 goes for (at least 2x), and what a regular, decent 35/40 goes for (maybe a grand less on a good day), I'm not sure it was a giant stretch, or even a stretch at all.

My 4 bits

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i was going to say nearly the simliar.

an EXTREMELY popular date/denom/type and i dont' recall looking at the pops in a long time but a coin like that, someone is going to pay up for. gotta get it outta that holder though. YUCK

details holders = good - details holders also stating conserved = (i'm so glad pcgs doesn't do that)

TomB

The Mohawk Valley Hoard comes from a cache of coins discovered in 2001, if i recall correctly, and I have previously been in contact with the person(s) who handled the majority (if not all) of the coins. I have detailed notes on the content of the hoard. There was only a single 1815/2 found in the group and the original offer price was over double what the auction image shows it sold for later on.

jayPem

@pursuitofliberty said:

@Herb_T said:
So does anyone have an opinion why the 1815/2 sold for so much? I know that family has expensive coins anyways….

I'm sure like a lot of us, I also watched that coin. I had it as a strong Choice AU, less the countermark. Considering what a solid 55 goes for (at least 2x), and what a regular, decent 35/40 goes for (maybe a grand less on a good day), I'm not sure it was a giant stretch, or even a stretch at all.

My 4 bits

Yup!
If I was a Mohawk collector I would probably have been delighted at the result..
Of course, if I was, and I bid for it, who knows where it would end?
Probably only one specialist bid on this.. Maybe against one of those eBay sellers who buy details stuff to crack and bin for 15K...😄

LanceNewmanOCC

@TomB said:
The Mohawk Valley Hoard comes from a cache of coins discovered in 2001, if i recall correctly, and I have previously been in contact with the person(s) who handled the majority (if not all) of the coins. I have detailed notes on the content of the hoard. There was only a single 1815/2 found in the group and the original offer price was over double what the auction image shows it sold for later on.

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someone bumped a thread about these, an older one. it was an entertaining read JUST from what was posted. insider info would be very enjoyable to discuss.

reminds me of that old fella that hid the coins in the metal box? that people looked for by geocaching or something. there were thread(s) on that. i think i recall images that they were actually found and supposedly not some big joke?

pursuitofliberty

@TomB said:
The Mohawk Valley Hoard comes from a cache of coins discovered in 2001, if i recall correctly, and I have previously been in contact with the person(s) who handled the majority (if not all) of the coins. I have detailed notes on the content of the hoard. There was only a single 1815/2 found in the group and the original offer price was over double what the auction image shows it sold for later on.

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Knowing that there was only one in the hoard, I am thinking the buyer may have made out well. I will say, I seriously thought about it, but only up to a point.

PM sent Tom