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Advice on Building a Resumé for a Coin Grading Company position

Aspie_RoccoAspie_Rocco Posts: 3,259 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited March 29, 2022 12:14PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Slightly off topic but not totally.
I am working a resumé geared towards a TPG application and am trying to figure out how to express my U.S. Variety coin enthusiasm as a skill set.

I have no professional paid experience working with coins. Only years of hunting and locating varieties mostly from poor images on ebay or coin shops/shows both for myself, other registry participants, and fellow variety enthusiasts.

I assume 20+ years of electrical/electronic experience and education coupled with military service is not quite helpful or the typical resume received at grading companies.

Any insight, input, or suggestions wound be greatly appreciated and valued.

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  • pruebaspruebas Posts: 4,582 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I doubt they would use your resume for anything related to your numismatic skills. They would only look to see your career history, so a “normal” resume should be fine (as though you were going to continue your current career aims).

    But be prepared for hands-on testing (while under pressure)!

    And he prepared to relocate.

  • Aspie_RoccoAspie_Rocco Posts: 3,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pruebas said:
    I doubt they would use your resume for anything related to your numismatic skills. They would only look to see your career history, so a “normal” resume should be fine (as though you were going to continue your current career aims).

    But be prepared for hands-on testing (while under pressure)!

    And he prepared to relocate.

    Thank you for your reply! I would absolutely consider relocating and would be especially thrilled with a hands on test.

  • FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 3,504 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree with what @pruebas said, I would bet that the numismatically related part would be conducted in an interview setting.

    Personally, I would have no idea how TPGs conduct their hiring process. I would imagine that it would include some pretty rigorous grading trials with hundreds of coins tested for accuracy. If you've ever seen the grading tests that they used to put on at the major shows, I assume it would be like that, but much larger. I had a thread with one here: https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1072216/interesting-contest-done-a-few-years-back-ats#latest

    I would assume that they would want you to be in the top three of that contest if not better, but for a much larger group of coins. If it's just a variety position, I don't know if they would need you to be an outstanding grader, but they would definitely want you to hit every single variety (or not a variety coin) they throw at you.

    I would suggest perhaps mentioning your experience here as well as your expertise with varieties during the likely interview process, and perhaps on a resume, under a special skills area (?). A quick look at any of your threads quickly reveals that you just don't know your stuff, but you know it with blurry images and under conditions that many would never be able to identify particular varieties, so in other words there's no doubt of your skill.

    Obviously, as a YN, I don't have nearly as much experience with hiring as anyone else here. Take everything I said with a grain of salt :wink:. I wish I had a chance to go for a TPG position. Best of luck to you!

    Coin Photographer.

  • DelawareDoonsDelawareDoons Posts: 3,413 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The trick is to get in front of the right people and show your skills.

    The best way to do that is to become a decent grader. Graders are always in demand, and even if you aren't quite at TPG-level grading/authentication, you can showcase the other parts of your skillset during the grading test and it may lead to a position elsewhere.

    "It's like God, Family, Country, except Sticker, Plastic, Coin."

  • Buy and sell a lot of coins at major shows to be known.

    The TPG's only hire the best graders. That takes some serious experience

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    In addition to your normal resume, include a section on your skills with varieties and related coin experience. Knowledge of reference materials is also relevant. The purpose of a resume is to get to the interview. I recommend you go to a few major shows, speak to the TPG's there, express your interest and inquire directly how best to apply and ask for other relevant points to help your application/interview. Cheers, RickO

  • DelawareDoonsDelawareDoons Posts: 3,413 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 11, 2022 5:34AM

    @greatcollection said:
    Buy and sell a lot of coins at major shows to be known.

    The TPG's only hire the best graders. That takes some serious experience

    You would be surprised. Some are not opposed to taking on lesser graders that have a solid foundation and show a desire/passion for learning about grading. The grader-finalizer relationship is often a mentee-mentor type relationship, in that regard.

    Don't get me wrong, you still have to be top 5% or so, but you don't have to be at the very top unless you want to walk in as a finalizer.

    "It's like God, Family, Country, except Sticker, Plastic, Coin."

  • Aspie_RoccoAspie_Rocco Posts: 3,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Excellent advice here, a thank you everyone that has responded. I am looking into booking a reservation for the ANA seminar. While my laser focus is on Variety coins, it seems like refining my actual grading skills is important and may be required (?) to become an attribution specialist.
    I wish more information was available regarding the attribution process and requirements for hiring. Or any solid -published information.

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 11, 2022 8:41AM

    Why not put all your efforts into becoming a coin dealer and work for yourself?

  • Aspie_RoccoAspie_Rocco Posts: 3,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:
    Why not put all your efforts into becoming a coin dealer and work for yourself?

    I halfway tried this a few years back and had limited success. I put in a lot of effort but not all my efforts. It seemed to take a lot of capital and inventory to maintain expenses. My family situation changed drastically since then, so it may be time for another go at it. Thank you for the suggestion

  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,453 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Why guess? Contact the TPG's you are interested in directly and ask them what qualifications they look for/require.

    All glory is fleeting.
  • sparky64sparky64 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I believe PCGS has snagged a forum member or two for employment, if I recall.

    "If I say something in the woods and my wife isn't there to hear it.....am I still wrong?"

    My Washington Quarter Registry set...in progress

  • marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I bet you will do great, whatever you do and whomever hires you will be lucky. You are very positive, motivated and a pleasure on this board.

    I would add that skill set (U.S. Var etc.) if you are sending a resume to a TPG.

    Good luck

    PCGS, you readin this? :#

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  • Aspie_RoccoAspie_Rocco Posts: 3,259 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 12, 2022 8:02PM

    Much thanks to everyone for the input, awesome community here as always! I spoke with a local dealer today and in addition to the great information and Ideas here, I completed and sent a resume to the two geographically closest candidates. I will send one ATS (across the street) next week and a few other places.
    Meanwhile I will be looking into some of the ANA summer courses.

    Thanks again and best wishes to all,
    Rocco

  • FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 3,504 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Let us know how it goes, I think many would like to see how this turns out. Best of luck!

    Coin Photographer.

  • Aspie_RoccoAspie_Rocco Posts: 3,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Compiling a list of grading services and auction houses to submit resumés, have I overlooked anything?
    PCGS
    Stacks
    GC
    ANACS
    Heritage
    NGC
    ICG

  • FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 3,504 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Legend seems to be missing from what I see if you wanted to include them.

    Coin Photographer.

  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,392 ✭✭✭✭✭

    congrats, can you give any details or not until you have been there awhile?

  • Aspie_RoccoAspie_Rocco Posts: 3,259 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 29, 2022 12:15PM

    Not sure yet, so I will wait till it’s all signed and official, or I hear otherwise. I am soooo happy and excited!
    Edit: I may have spoken too soon :(

  • youniqueyounique Posts: 882 ✭✭✭

    Congrats. You're on your way. YAY !

  • savitalesavitale Posts: 1,409 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Congratulations! Sometimes it just takes putting yourself out there and trying, I suppose.

  • TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,740 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Congrats!! Now share the details!! :grin:

  • kruegerkrueger Posts: 887 ✭✭✭✭

    How many classes have you taken ,online, ANA summer seminars, ANA
    Pre show classes. A list would help. Club presentations you have given. , Any Articles you have written.

    One large coin dealership required new hires to read David bowers book "The History of United States Coinage: As Illustrated by the Garrett Collection. You may be asked to not just work with varieties but to become and work as a Numismatist. Sometimes 3rd basemen have to play left field or first base!

    PCGS or NGC Registry sets you built. shows commitment long term and knowledge.

    Dealer references that know your skills. Obtain letters of reference from them.
    Find some former graders and pick their brains or as questions. Finding out what your future employers are like and what they expect.

    Maybe you can get hired first thru you electronic knowledge. Lots of electronics in the background of these entities.

    Hope this helps in building your resume to guide your hire to the position you want.

    Good luck

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,366 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Aspie_Rocco said:
    Update. I was pleasantly surprised by an unexpected opportunity and have since been offered a better numismatic position than I had ever previously considered! Woooooooooooo! :)B)
    Thank you everyone for the comments! I truly appreciate the advice.

    Wow! Congrats! That's really really exciting!

    Let us know the details when you can!

  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 9,665 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sometimes your desire/will to learn,motivation,interest,dedication, desire, can go a long way in making up for any lack of technical skill. Tech. info can be learned. Interest,desire etc. comes from within. Good luck.

    Successful transactions:Tookybandit. "Everyone is equal, some are more equal than others".
  • ShaunBC5ShaunBC5 Posts: 1,744 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Congrats! I hope it’s everything you want it to be.
    I quit a good job to do what I’ve always wanted to do bad so far haven’t regretted it (and don’t plan to). Enjoy your new position and make the most of it!

  • Aspie_RoccoAspie_Rocco Posts: 3,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well, I lost that opportunity, but will not give up. I will be an appreciated asset somewhere some day.
    Even having been considered was one of the most flattering and exciting experiences ever.

  • SwampboySwampboy Posts: 13,049 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Aspie_Rocco said:
    Update. I was pleasantly surprised by an unexpected opportunity and have since been offered a better numismatic position than I had ever previously considered! Woooooooooooo! :)B)
    Thank you everyone for the comments! I truly appreciate the advice.

    All I see is Joy in that piece

    "Inspiration exists, but it has to find you working" Pablo Picasso

  • marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Aspie_Rocco said:
    Well, I lost that opportunity, but will not give up. I will be an appreciated asset somewhere some day.
    Even having been considered was one of the most flattering and exciting experiences ever.

    that opportunity was not meant to be, and GOD was good to you by letting you know early on.
    Good luck, stay focused :)

  • bearcavebearcave Posts: 3,996 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What he said ☝️

    Ken
  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,868 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hey, this one didn't work but you presumably got farther than you could have imagined a year ago.

    Just keep plowing ahead and learning. Make good use of your time until the next opportunity.

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