Four Coins I've Questioned Over the Years
braddick
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Coin #1:
I purchased this coin in a Whitman cent album twenty + years ago. It was in the spot of the regular 1943, and it wasn't until a couple of years after purchase I noticed the date. It does stick to a magnet, and the single time I took it to the ANACS table at Long Beach, the grader/authenticator stated, "probably a counterfeit yet would require equipment we don't have at the show to know; with a certainty." I've never followed up with it yet have resigned to the fact it is probably a counterfeit of some sort.
Coin #2:
Interesting counterfeit of a "silver" 3c (trime):
I found this one on a bid board being sold as a genuine coin, yet so obvious it isn't. It is a contemporary counterfeit, though, so I was comfortable paying the requested $15.00
Coin #3:
A contemporary Bust Half dollar:
This one is made out of German silver. I liked it as it is a bit closer to reality than many of these early bogus bust halves.
Coin #4:
I did buy this one as a genuine Peace dollar! It wasn't until it arrived that I saw the various 'tells' of its origins. It is unusual enough and kind of cool enough. I never complained and left the seller positive feedback. It is made of silver and weighs the correct amount.
peacockcoins
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neat coins. love the trime.
i don't know your finances and submission track record but i promise it won't kill ya to submit some long-shot coins from time to time.
(gotta keep that stock price up right?)
you gotta figure, you'll hit SOMETHING eventually.
then you get to show us pre-submission pics and see if we can pic up on it and when we can't, you can post your mega-new-pcgs-ultra-rarity and mock us for not knowing better!?!? or something along those lines.
German has special silver? What is German silver?
German silver is an alloy frequently used to counterfeit as well as for other purposes that is 60% Copper, 20% Zinc, and 20% Nickel.
Coin Photographer.
What is the weight of your 1944 steel cent?
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2.68
Weighed twice. Once at Long Beach and years later at a local coin shop.
peacockcoins
I’d send the 1944 in.
Your confidence gives me mine.
I will do that.
peacockcoins
It sounds like a left-over steel planchet from the prior year was used. Get it slabbed.
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Can you get a close-up of the 1944 date? Mine has different sized 4's and not straight. I have soaked in acetone and jabbed at the second 4 with a toothpick but it is solid. It does not seem to be glued on. The pic of mine ->
I will do so tomorrow or Thursday.
peacockcoins
That 1944 cent is very intriguing.
I've questioned a few coins but they never answer.
The answer is always “42!”
@braddick.... That '44 cent is intriguing (based on the picture).... let us know what the submission results are.... Cheers, RickO
That '44 has the look of a circulated steel cent, that's for sure.
Not sticking to a magnet is pretty definitive, Maybe a silver penny which are known too?
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Your 1833 counterfeit capped bust half looks to be the Davignon 1A, listed in the Contemporary Counterfeit Capped Bust Halves book. It's a fairly common variety.
I have two of this variety.
I love the counterfeit trime, if you ever decide to rehome it keep me in mind.
The pic is small but something about the spacing of the letters in IN GOD make me think your coin is a struck counterfeit. There are many 1944 cents known on steel planchets as they were still being struck for Belgian coinage (IIRC, someone will probably correct that for me). It's probably worth the price of a trip west to our hosts to know for sure.
Sean Reynolds
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@Off_Cent_er
I agree, yet somewhat more difficult to find one without damage such as cut marks.
@seanq
Will do!
I appreciate the added info regarding the cent.
peacockcoins
Hope you score with the steel cent.
The OP said it does stick to a magnet.
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"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
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Yeap, Belgian 2 Francs.
Anacs and Icg would also do the authentication.
Here are what I hope to be better photos of the 1944 cent:
peacockcoins
I take back my comments about the motto looking off, comparing it to TrueViews of other 1944 copper and steel cents it looks right. Definitely worth the chance of a submission.
Sean Reynolds
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
Might as well try the 44 at ANACS or ICG.
And correct - the 1944 steel cent is probably not a transitional issue, but a wrong planchet (Belgium 2 Francs).
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Ugh, I swear me can better read than that
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