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Frosty coins submitted to PCGS last week. UPDATE - GRADES RECEIVED

SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 11,713 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited July 7, 2022 10:51AM in U.S. Coin Forum

Mailed out on 3-1-2022.

Hopefully they will arrive this week.

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    coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Good luck, some very nice lookers in that group.

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    FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 2,847 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You've got some coins in there that are a lock DCAM if the reverse is like the obverse. Let us know how they turn out!

    Young Numismatist, Coin Photographer.

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    Eldorado9Eldorado9 Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Those are really pretty!

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    FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 2,847 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SanctionII said:
    Photo of the reverses.

    Not expecting any DCAMs, so I will be pleasantly surprised if any of them receive the designation.

    I do hope the 1950 half and the 1953 halves CAM.

    I count three lock DCAMs based on your photos. The last three 53 halves and the 50 are going to be close, but I think you'll get a CAM. The first 1953 I'd be shocked if they didn't give it a CAM. There are some stunners in there, especially that 1960 quarter. I've never seen one deeper than that!

    Young Numismatist, Coin Photographer.

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    ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,324 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looking forward to hearing back in several months when you get them back. :)

    Collector, occasional seller

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    Batman23Batman23 Posts: 4,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice looking group. A lot of frost there. Good luck with the results.

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    davewesendavewesen Posts: 5,849 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Those are great.

    I have always wondered if the other coins in a submission can help, hurt or have no effect at all on the group grades.
    As well as order in the submission ...

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    7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,254 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow! I like simple honest and good coins such as these...

    Love that Milled British (1830-1960)
    Well, just Love coins, period.
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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 27,502 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'd love to see them when you get them back

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks to me as if you have a superb submission.... Tough to conclusively determine CAM/DCAM from pictures, but sure seems you will get the designations on most - if not all - of those coins. Be sure to let us know when the results are available. Cheers, RickO

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    CentSearcherCentSearcher Posts: 226 ✭✭✭

    Wow, I see a lot of DCAM grades coming. Best of luck!

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    SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 11,713 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I just received notice from PCGS that my submission of these coins was received today from the postal service.

    That was fairly quick.

    Glad the submission made it to our host without any problems.

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    jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 9,284 ✭✭✭✭✭

    About to hit 3 months on my single crossover I sent in. Hope you get these done faster. They look very nice and I would be surprised if none DCAM.
    Jim


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    davewesendavewesen Posts: 5,849 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have a 5 coin regular submission they received on 12/13 /21 order processing and specification. Then it went to grading. About 3 weeks ago they corrected the denomination they put down wrong. Yesterday it moved to encapsulation. I hope you get something before June.

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    lermishlermish Posts: 1,926 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @davewesen said:
    I have a 5 coin regular submission they received on 12/13 /21 order processing and specification. Then it went to grading. About 3 weeks ago they corrected the denomination they put down wrong. Yesterday it moved to encapsulation. I hope you get something before June.

    Everyone has had issues/complaints with processing times. I'm curios if this is due to coin rarity/difficulty or potential submitter paperwork issues?

    I submitted two orders, World Regular (12 raw coins) and Modern (4 raw coins) received 2/3 and 2/2 respectively. I received the Modern order 2/25 for a three week turnaround beginning to end. The World coins, which have stated 50 business day turnaround, moved into QA yesterday...so a likely 6 week/30 business day turnaround once they get to me.

    Am I just lucky? Easy coins? I'm obviously happy but that is a HUGE discrepancy.

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    SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 11,713 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Grades posted on the 28 coins submitted to our host in March, 2022.

    The results are mixed and include some fantastic grades.

    The dimes and quarters turned out great. The half dollars and nickels are head scratchers.

    The grades are:

    1 1 44772467 6691 1950 50C PR65 USA
    2 1 44772468 6694 1953 50C PR66 USA
    3 1 44772469 6694 1953 50C PR66 USA
    4 1 44772470 6694 1953 50C PR65 USA
    5 1 44772471 6694 1953 50C PR66 USA
    6 1 44772472 5984 1952 25C PR66 USA
    7 1 44772473 85987 1955 25C, CAM PR67CA USA
    8 1 44772474 85988 1956 25C, CAM PR67CA USA
    9 1 44772475 85989 1957 25C, CAM PR68CA USA
    10 1 44772476 85990 1958 25C, CAM PR68CA USA
    11 1 44772477 95992 1960 25C, DCAM PR68DC USA
    12 1 44772478 85993 1961 25C, CAM PR67CA USA
    13 1 44772479 85995 1963 25C, CAM PR69CA USA
    14 1 44772480 5225 1950 10C PR67 USA
    15 1 44772481 5226 1951 10C PR67 USA
    16 1 44772482 85227 1952 10C, CAM PR68CA USA
    17 1 44772483 85228 1953 10C, CAM PR67CA USA
    18 1 44772484 85230 1955 10C, CAM PR68CA USA
    19 1 44772485 85231 1956 10C, CAM PR68CA USA
    20 1 44772486 5232 1957 10C PR68 USA
    21 1 44772487 85233 1958 10C, CAM PR67CA USA
    22 1 44772488 95235 1960 10C, DCAM PR68DC USA
    23 1 44772489 85236 1961 10C, CAM PR68CA USA
    24 1 44772490 95238 1963 10C, DCAM PR67DC USA
    25 1 44772491 4188 1956 5C PR68 USA
    26 1 44772492 4191 1959 5C PR67 USA
    27 1 44772493 4192 1960 5C PR67 USA
    28 1 44772494 5237 1962 10C PR68 USA

    Trueview photos will eventually be posted to this thread.

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    LukeMarshallLukeMarshall Posts: 1,911 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for posting,

    Its nice you got some Cams and Deep Cameos.

    The Franklin Halves and Jefferson Nickels looked awesome in your Pics, and its odd that non of either cameoed.

    It's all about what the people want...

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    cheezhedcheezhed Posts: 5,686 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Why are they head scratchers? Were you thinking Cam on those as well?

    Many happy BST transactions
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    MaywoodMaywood Posts: 1,891 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @FlyingAl said: You've got some coins in there that are a lock DCAM if the reverse is like the obverse. Let us know how they turn out!

    Kevin has learned, as have most of us, that there is no such thing as a "lock DCAM" at PCGS.

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    FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 2,847 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Maywood said:
    @FlyingAl said: You've got some coins in there that are a lock DCAM if the reverse is like the obverse. Let us know how they turn out!

    Kevin has learned, as have most of us, that there is no such thing as a "lock DCAM" at PCGS.

    True, but there were three coins that I thought were lock DCAMs from what I read in one of my previous posts, honestly I don't remember if they were the three that actually got the designation. Obviously, I was wrong on the 1953 half.

    It seems PCGS has been all over the place recently with the CAM and DCAM designations, but that could be my limited viewpoint. If that's true, your statement has never been more true than now IMO.

    Young Numismatist, Coin Photographer.

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    MaywoodMaywood Posts: 1,891 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What I believe is that the photograph technique being used to show us the coins is too flawed for a concise judgement, the images are too small and angled.

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    SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 11,713 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 7, 2022 5:01PM

    My views after receiving grades on the many 1950-1970 proof and SMS coins (over 220) I have submitted to PCGS in 2021 and in 2022 are that:

    1. some I thought should receive a CAM designation did not;

    2. some I thought should not receive a CAM designation did;

    3. toned coins both received and did not receive a CAM designation;

    4. some BN and RB copper coins that have mirrored fields and frosted devices warrant receiving a CAM designation but do not receive some from PCGS as a matter of policy (which one may or may not agree with) resulting in what I refer to as "unicorn" coins (with outstanding eye appeal);

    5. the line between brilliant and Cameo coins is not precisely drawn (and likely never will be);

    6. the line between Cameo and DCAM coins is not precisely drawn (and likely never will be);

    7. my personal grades assigned to the submitted coins have been very close to the grades assigned by PCGS; and

    8. overall my experience submitting coins for grading has been positive thus far.

    More grist for the discussion mill will be available after Trueview photos of all of the submitted coins have been posted. Though the Trueviews are glamour shots, they will be of much better quality than the cell phone photos of the raw coins posted at the tip of this thread.

    One good thing about this submission having grades post is that I am now in a position to have 100% of the coins in my Registry Set of 1950-1964 proof coins (mostly collected raw and submitted for grading) present and accounted for.

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    ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,588 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I hope you are satisfied in overall result ☺️ Couldn’t wait to see the shinny 1960 PR68DCAM

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    SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 11,713 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Paradisefound.

    After I receive the coins from this submission back from PCGS I will have a better feel for things. However I am very pleased with the numerical grades given to all of the coins and with the designations given to the dimes and quarters.

    I too look forward to seeing the Trueviews (and the coins in hand).

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