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Inquiry on three coins via email

logger7logger7 Posts: 8,688 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited February 25, 2022 1:18PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Someone contacted me on these three coins, I told him the dimes were not worth much more than silver and he got very angry when I told him that it was unlikely the cent was real. He said he got this 1943 cent that I told him I doubt very much is real from a veteran who he said would make him rich one day:


File under why coin dealers drink.....

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  • ernie11ernie11 Posts: 1,961 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @braddick said:
    Why isn't the cent real?

    I agree - am I missing something - like, who would counterfeit a steel penny?

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 8,688 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @braddick said:
    Why isn't the cent real?

    It's coated to look like copper, which is what the guy thought it was.

    https://coinsite.com/1943-copper-us-lincoln-cent/#:~:text=1943 U.S. Copper Cent In 1943 the United,to make cartridge casings for the war effort.

  • jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 9,728 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Dont feel bad, I get that daily in the shop and on the phone, several folks think they are holding the eliasberg collection , and its literally only a few bucks at best.

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 8,688 ✭✭✭✭✭

    And then I get this response from him, I probably should have tried to meet with him or discuss it over the phone:

    "He was an 80 year old veteran who pulled out a small zip lock bag of coins, reached in and gave me one. Don't be such a hater to think that man gave me something he didn't know was valuable. He told me out his own mouth that the coin would make me rich one day! So keep hating I'll just get a second opinion elsewhere.... Hater!"

  • mavs2583mavs2583 Posts: 200 ✭✭✭✭

    As much as I love coins, this is the kind of thing that would get on my nerves if I l were a dealer. Seems like a regular occurrence for people to inherit coins and don’t know what they have, so that must mean they’re worth millions right?

  • ernie11ernie11 Posts: 1,961 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TomB said:
    The cent doesn't appear plated with copper. It looks exactly like nearly every other dirty and circulated steel cent I have seen.

    Agree. It looks just like a steel cent.

  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,107 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Geez oh! Mr grouchy pants made things difficult. Peace Roy

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  • logger7logger7 Posts: 8,688 ✭✭✭✭✭

    He must have thought it might be a rare coin and with those the only rare one is copper; he somehow thought the old veteran whose wheelchair he was pushing in a parade had given him something priceless.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @logger7 said:
    He must have thought it might be a rare coin and with those the only rare one is copper; he somehow thought the old veteran whose wheelchair he was pushing in a parade had given him something priceless.

    People who don't know coins often think the steel cents are valuable. That coin is not fake, it's just not worth a lot.

  • silverpopsilverpop Posts: 6,699 ✭✭✭✭✭

    some people think coins are a way to riches as they see all these nice coins going for thousands to millions of dollars and they think they can live on easy street with coins they bought, given or found, only thing is there coins aren't rare, high valued or anything but in their mind they are

  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,154 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You dealers must realize that they have no place else to go and they know the person who told them it was real and valuable and probably do not know you. Unless I am real close to a family with coin inheritances I recommend an honest dealer for them to go to and stay out of the no win situation. I have seen several dealer lose actual friends(at least thought to be friends) over coin advice.
    Jim


    When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jesbroken said:
    You dealers must realize that they have no place else to go and they know the person who told them it was real and valuable and probably do not know you. Unless I am real close to a family with coin inheritances I recommend an honest dealer for them to go to and stay out of the no win situation. I have seen several dealer lose actual friends(at least thought to be friends) over coin advice.
    Jim

    Yes. There is no advantage to being the bearer of bad news. The ones that get heartbroken are actually worse than the ones who get mad.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Your experience, unfortunately, is not uncommon. I was known in the company I worked for, as a coin collector. Frequently, employees would bring me coins they thought were valuable - either family heirlooms, found, gifts or purchased from that TV show. Now, I am well versed in communications and always tried to be as kind, diplomatic, yet informative as possible. Most were disappointed, and one individual was super angry (guy on TV assured him it was a super treasure) and would never speak to me again. No matter how I tried, even referring them to others (collectors or dealers), the individual (and others) had great difficulty in accepting the information. Cheers, RickO

  • nwcoastnwcoast Posts: 2,880 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    Your experience, unfortunately, is not uncommon. I was known in the company I worked for, as a coin collector. Frequently, employees would bring me coins they thought were valuable - either family heirlooms, found, gifts or purchased from that TV show. Now, I am well versed in communications and always tried to be as kind, diplomatic, yet informative as possible. Most were disappointed, and one individual was super angry (guy on TV assured him it was a super treasure) and would never speak to me again. No matter how I tried, even referring them to others (collectors or dealers), the individual (and others) had great difficulty in accepting the information. Cheers, RickO

    “No good deed goes unpunished” was a common phrase uttered by one of my old supervisors.
    Seems well applicable here.

    Years back, when I spent a fair amount of time hanging out in one of my favorite local coin shops, I’d often overhear the proprietor breaking such news to family members that had come calling with their inherited and less than valuable coins. He was very gentle in his frequent recommendation that they best just “pass it along, and keep it in the family for some youngster down the line to enjoy”.

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  • logger7logger7 Posts: 8,688 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've seen the public come in to one of the better coin shops and gold buyers with jewelry where gemstones would need to be separated and handed back to the customer and then the precious metal content weighed. One worker remarked on how sad it made the sellers feel as family heirlooms were dismembered. Diplomatic courtesy is vital when you run a shop.

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