09SVDB Its a counterfeit, seller states its an estate find. Lets get this listing removed

MarkW63

lots of things wrong with this one,
Wrong font in the "N" in UNITED,
The designers initials is wrong,
It has the counterfeit die chip marker halfway up in the inside line of the left Wheat ear,
The mint mark font is a mess,
https://www.ebay.com/itm/294820919058?hash=item44a4b23712:g:hvQAAOSw5stiD-pk

MsMorrisine

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?sid=vintageestatesalefinds10&_pgn=1&isRefine=true

MsMorrisine

“We don't grade coins but I would give it a F or XF see pic's.”

cheezhed

*poof

MarkW63

I can't say for sure what all it took to get this one taken care of, but!
I know of at LEST one message to the seller! &
one report to ebay.
This one looks to have been pulled by the seller, they did the right thing.

cheezhed

I sent message to seller as well and got a polite reply back of how to tell a counterfeit so I sent her a link showing and describing diagnostics.

ricko

Looks like the seller pulled it.... Definitely a fake, thanks for the great pictures. Cheers, RickO

burfle23

I always try to look at a seller's other listings just in case...

BuffaloIronTail

@cheezhed said:
*poof

I wonder how may tens of thousands of hard earned Dollars were swindled from people by stuff like this.

Pete

MarkW63

@BuffaloIronTail said:

@cheezhed said:
*poof

I wonder how may tens of thousands of hard earned Dollars were swindled from people by stuff like this.

Pete

Over the many years that this has been going on, I'd say more in the line of Millions of dollars!!
I know I've seen really high dollar figures (bids) on a LOT of just phony 09SVDB's. We've intervened in auctions of counterfeits with bids over $1,000 and lots of others that were around the $500.00 to $600.00 range.
What I would like to know is a total figure of just how many 09SVDB's that say just PCGS has graded, meaning to be genuine. I mean its amazing to me to how many phonies are out there! the coin has a really LOW mintage.
So, the market appearance of 09SVDB's is an illusion to the reality of genuine ones, and there is UNTOLD Lincoln collection's around the world that has a phony SVDB in them and the owners have no clue.
Its known as the "King Of Lincoln's" for good reason!
Lots of experts has made claims that the SVDB is the number 1 most counterfeited of all US coins, followed by the 16-D dime.