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WeissWeiss Posts: 9,922 ✭✭✭✭✭

The snow outside always creates a beautiful bright ambient light.
Tell me this doesn't get your blood pumping:

We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last.
--Severian the Lame

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  • rte592rte592 Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 17, 2022 7:16PM

    @Weiss said:
    The snow outside always creates a beautiful bright ambient light.
    Tell me this doesn't get your blood pumping:

    I like the gold.
    Slightly different backs, did they restrike these like most other Mexican gold?
    Some of them eagles on the silver look suspect...I'm assuming you checked them for authentication.

  • MeltdownMeltdown Posts: 8,616 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 18, 2022 5:25AM

    Muy Bien.

    Newp for this week...

  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,922 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 18, 2022 6:22AM

    @rte592 said:

    I like the gold.
    Slightly different backs, did they restrike these like most other Mexican gold?
    Some of them eagles on the silver look suspect...I'm assuming you checked them for authentication.

    These are all mid-1800s pieces, except for the shiny one lower left. That one's early 20th century.
    They're all good. :)

    We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last.
    --Severian the Lame
  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,922 ✭✭✭✭✭

    In honor of @Jzyskowski1 's platinum thread earlier:

    We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last.
    --Severian the Lame
  • rte592rte592 Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Weiss said:

    @rte592 said:

    I like the gold.
    Slightly different backs, did they restrike these like most other Mexican gold?
    Some of them eagles on the silver look suspect...I'm assuming you checked them for authentication.

    These are all mid-1800s pieces, except for the shiny one lower left. That one's early 20th century.
    They're all good. :)

    I figured by your post count that you would verify.
    Didn't cross my mine you had the fancy tools.
    I bought some at a local coin meeting from an guest and his daughter from Mexico.
    He didn't speak English, the daughter did.
    He was asking questions about his collection of coins over the last 50 years and was maybe interested in selling some IF the price was right.

    Some of his stuff stuck to a magnet and the daughter asked what that ment.
    I explained that silver doesn't stick to a magnet and those were copies of Fakes.
    After a bit of back and forth Spanish language she said he couldn't remember when he got those but it was a long time ago.

    I bought 5 of the others he had, but just did the basic checks visually and with a good magnet.
    I remember paying up for them, figuring that maybe I was helping him out a little bit.
    Most everyone else was shocked with the magnetic ones as all of them looked pretty good.

  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,922 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 18, 2022 8:56AM

    @rte592 said:

    @Weiss said:

    @rte592 said:

    I figured by your post count that you would verify.
    Didn't cross my mine you had the fancy tools.

    >

    No better tools than experienced eyes. It's a pretty neat thing when "real" dealers pull you aside and ask your opinion about a piece they have doubts about. And no joke, I've tripped and fallen on my face several times. But I like to think I'm learning with every transaction, even 45 years into this hobby. A good pair of experienced eyes, a simple 10x loupe, familiarity with how something should feel in your hand, and ring on the counter. A pretty refined BS detector. And some fancy tools ;)

    We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last.
    --Severian the Lame
  • LukeMarshallLukeMarshall Posts: 1,883 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Dang, Im slacking... I thought I still had a day to post in last weeks Tiny Tiny Edition.

    I love the Mexican Gold, very nice
    Also that fat stack of PGMs is Magnifique

    It's all about what the people want...

  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,922 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Damn, @sbeverly. That is very, very cool.

    We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last.
    --Severian the Lame
  • ashelandasheland Posts: 22,572 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sorry I've been boring lately, I haven't gotten much of anything lately...

    Cool stuff shown on here so far!

  • MeltdownMeltdown Posts: 8,616 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I almost forgot I had these... I had the stack of ten rubber banded for a few years and it tarnished one bar through the plastic.
    Individual serial numbered MTB bars with matching paper COA's.

  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,922 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Meltdown said:

    Individual serial numbered MTB bars with matching paper COA's.

    THOSE ARE VERY COOL.

    Who's the maker on them, Melty?

    We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last.
    --Severian the Lame
  • MeltdownMeltdown Posts: 8,616 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's been a while since I've looked them up. I want to say JM.

  • KliaoKliao Posts: 5,426 ✭✭✭✭✭

    From @Weiss 's platinum thread,
    A couple 1/4 ounce eagles and a pure platinum key charm that weighs a hair over 1/4 ounce. :)

    Young Numismatist/collector
    73 Positive BST transactions buying and selling with 44 members and counting!
    instagram.com/klnumismatics

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Weiss.... Nice equipment... How does that diamond detector work? Not familiar with that tool. Cheers, RickO

  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,922 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    @Weiss.... Nice equipment... How does that diamond detector work? Not familiar with that tool. Cheers, RickO

    It's a little strange and takes some getting used to. You have to set it for the correct ambient air temperature where you are. Then you have to keep a finger on a metal panel on the back while carefully touching a small copper prong (hidden by the black rubber cap on the left side) to the stone while not touching any metal, like the kid's game "operation". That's pretty tricky with really small stones. If the light display goes from green to yellow into the red at the right side of the spectrum, the stone is genuine.

    We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last.
    --Severian the Lame
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Weiss .... Thank you... sounds a little tricky. Is it generally recognized as accurate in the industry?? Cheers, RickO

  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,922 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    @Weiss .... Thank you... sounds a little tricky. Is it generally recognized as accurate in the industry?? Cheers, RickO

    They can detect a low quality fakes and cubic zirconia (CZ) with very good accuracy. They aren't as good with moissanite, but that's not encountered as often. Generally if it's set in real gold and if it's a smaller stone, I tend to trust the result. Anything bigger than 1/4 carat needs further analysis.

    We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last.
    --Severian the Lame
  • KliaoKliao Posts: 5,426 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 19, 2022 11:45AM

    @ricko said:
    @Weiss.... Nice equipment... How does that diamond detector work? Not familiar with that tool. Cheers, RickO

    It's a cheap tool that can be had for under $20 on amazon. Actually, surprised how accurate it can be for the price although professionals use much more expensive types of testers. Although there are many bad reviews on it, I suspect it's because many don't read the instructions how to use it as the stone needs be touching metal and the user needs to put a finger on the metal place on the back for it to work properly. Fun to play with too in my opinion. Like @Weiss said, CZ's and glass will not pass the test but moissanites will because of similar heat conductivity to a diamond.

    2 stones on the little metal tray that came with the tester, left is a CZ while right is a diamond. Had a finger behind the tester touching the metal plate so it works properly. I usually use my other hand but had to make it work with a camera in my other hand.




    Young Numismatist/collector
    73 Positive BST transactions buying and selling with 44 members and counting!
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks guys.... Interesting tool....and cheap enough for an initial screening. Cheers, RickO

  • LukeMarshallLukeMarshall Posts: 1,883 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sellers photos , but this was my last weeks pickup

    It's all about what the people want...

  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,922 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 21, 2022 9:37AM

    Two cool things about the nobles: They were the first platinum bullion coin. They started way back in 1983--years before even the Maple Leaf (1988) and way, way before the first American platinum coins (1997).

    They're also legal tender but simply denominated as a Noble, like the South African Krugerrand and the Mexican Libertad. They're supposed to be traded (spent) at whatever the ounce of platinum (or gold, or silver) is worth at any given time.

    We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last.
    --Severian the Lame
  • LukeMarshallLukeMarshall Posts: 1,883 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What year is yours @Weiss

    It's all about what the people want...

  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,922 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @LukeMarshall said:
    What year is yours @Weiss

    We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last.
    --Severian the Lame
  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,922 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice, @SimpleCollector . AllEngelhard shows fewer than 10,000 of them minted. I bet tons of them were melted.
    I've never seen one in person and I've been at this for decades. And smart to get one slabbed, I suspect there are fakes out there.

    We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last.
    --Severian the Lame
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SimpleCollector .... That is a very nice gold coin... Gold about gold... Now all you need is a CAC gold sticker :D;) Cheers, RickO

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 22,572 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Weiss Cool picture with the Engelhard 100oz under the platinum! B)

  • RobMRobM Posts: 528 ✭✭✭

    Recent acquisition. Tube of 20. Not exactly sure why I bought them.

  • rte592rte592 Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice, @SimpleCollector 
    That's a prime example.
    Premiums on those are usually high.

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 22,572 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • MeltdownMeltdown Posts: 8,616 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @asheland said:
    @Meltdown nice bars!

    Thanks. I can't imagine there are too many consecutive serial numbers still paired up these days...

  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,922 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't even own one nice poured Engelhard 5 ounce :(

    We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last.
    --Severian the Lame
  • ashelandasheland Posts: 22,572 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have one, I believe it's the same type...

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 22,572 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Lemme check...

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 22,572 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • ashelandasheland Posts: 22,572 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Weiss said:
    I don't even own one nice poured Engelhard 5 ounce :(

    They're tough. I had to pay a healthy premium to get mine, like $40-45 an ounce, somewhere around that.

  • rte592rte592 Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Weiss said:
    I don't even own one nice poured Engelhard 5 ounce :(

    the prices seem to be a little nuts on the 5ers.
    I've picked up a 10 ounce, haven't been able to get a 5 ounce for a 10 ounce price.
    Less mintage and all.

  • LukeMarshallLukeMarshall Posts: 1,883 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great Bars Meltdown, that style has great cooling patterns.

    I had aspired to get a set of different style 5oz Engelhards in the past, but ended up moving on to something else and selling the ones i had (maybe about 5 different varieties)

    Did fairly well back then on them, but They are even more pricy now!

    It's all about what the people want...

  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,922 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's not like I feel an emptiness in my soul for not having one. The ones @Meltdown posted just have pretty cooling lines that match my 4th series Canadian 100:

    We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last.
    --Severian the Lame
  • MeltdownMeltdown Posts: 8,616 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @rte592 said:

    @Weiss said:
    I don't even own one nice poured Engelhard 5 ounce :(

    the prices seem to be a little nuts on the 5ers.
    I've picked up a 10 ounce, haven't been able to get a 5 ounce for a 10 ounce price.
    Less mintage and all.

    Holy crap. I just looked up sold listings on ebay. They really have gone a little nuts.

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 22,572 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here’s my 100oz Engelhard. The only 100oz I have left. :(

    It does however have a cool Saturn looking cooling pattern. B)

  • rte592rte592 Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Biggest engelhard I have so far is a 20.

  • LukeMarshallLukeMarshall Posts: 1,883 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like the slabbed Prospector @SimpleCollector , and as weiss said it lends a degree of security to it being authenticated by ANACS.

    @Weiss I also suspect that most of these were melted in the last 40 years. I had to rescue this one from Hawaii before it fell off the earth. The original seal in broken and the coin is free (and quite beat up) but its a tough issue/year so I scooped it as I'm not sure when I would see another...

    It's all about what the people want...

  • LukeMarshallLukeMarshall Posts: 1,883 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I too also had a deep seated yearning... something without substitute, a missing block if you will that could only have been filled by an Engelhard (or two)...

    It's all about what the people want...

  • LukeMarshallLukeMarshall Posts: 1,883 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Between the hairlines, rim dings and the gouges its probably not worth it to send for slabbing... but that just means i can enjoy it raw.

    It's all about what the people want...

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