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The three cent piece appears to be very unloved. Finding books on the subject is proving difficult. Any recommendations for must have reading?

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  • RichieURichRichieURich Posts: 8,513 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The Ultimate Guide to U. S. Three Cent Nickels 1865 - 1889 by Allan Gifford. Book is very difficult to find.

    The Authoritative Reference on Three Cent Nickels by Kevin Flynn and Edward Fletcher.

    The Authoritative Reference on Three Cent Silver Coins by Kevin Flynn and Winston Zack.

    An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.

  • RandomsRandoms Posts: 164 ✭✭✭

    Thanks. I didn’t know about the Allan Gifford book

  • SaorAlbaSaorAlba Posts: 7,583 ✭✭✭✭✭

    In the beginning:

    And the end:

    Tir nam beann, nan gleann, s'nan gaisgeach ~ Saorstat Albanaich a nis!
  • vulcanizevulcanize Posts: 1,408 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 13, 2022 1:20PM

    @RichieURich said:
    The Ultimate Guide to U. S. Three Cent Nickels 1865 - 1889 by Allan Gifford. Book is very difficult to find.

    The Authoritative Reference on Three Cent Nickels by Kevin Flynn and Edward Fletcher.

    The Authoritative Reference on Three Cent Silver Coins by Kevin Flynn and Winston Zack.

    As per the following link:

    https://www.3centnickel.com/books/

    The Ultimate Guide to U.S. Three Cent Nickels, 1865 to 1889 by Allan Gifford
    (no longer available for sale, supplier doesn’t reply anymore)

    There was also an old thread on here about it which had tidbits of info.

    https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/711618/three-cent-silver-and-three-cent-nickel-books

    Don't have any books on the subject and gathered whatever info I could by searching online. Really liked the 3CN till they started to get pricey :blush:

    Good luck with your quest.

    Edited to add link

  • yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 4,855 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 13, 2022 6:31PM

    @RichieURich said:
    The Ultimate Guide to U. S. Three Cent Nickels 1865 - 1889 by Allan Gifford. Book is very difficult to find.

    Not anymore.
    You can browse it or download it as a PDF from the Newman Numismatic Portal:
    https://nnp.wustl.edu/library/book/555545

    To download, put your mouse over the cover photo.
    Just below the upper left corner is an circle icon with 3 dots, like (...) .
    Click on it and then select PDF.

    I did buy a hard copy before it became available as a free PDF,
    and it did take a couple of years of checking ebay before I found one.
    It was somewhat of a disappointment, because he focused on RPDs, DDOs and DDRs,
    which are "modern" type varieties. RPDs are too small to be identified from most ebay photos.
    I prefer to collect by die cracks, which are abundant in this series.
    He did do a good job of identifying the different hubs, though.

    A couple of years ago, for fun I tried to identify die pairs for the 1866 3CN.
    I spent a few days over Thanksgiving week.
    I was able to find examples of most of the Gifford varieties.
    I found 52 different die pairs and major die states that had 2 or more examples,
    and an additional 29 with a single example.
    I suspect many collectors who want to "catch 'em all" would find it too hard to get 52 or 81.
    But some people might have fun getting as many as they can.

    1865 has a higher mintage, so probably many more die pairs.
    I tried looking at those for awhile, and I found many different, but it was very hard to find 2 examples of a given crack pattern!


    Mostly I did it by reverse crack patterns.
    I numbered the leaf clusters in hexadecimal (1 to c),
    and the individual leaves in each 1 to 6 .

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The 3CN coins are interesting... I have not collected them, focused mainly on larger coins. The more I see them here on the forum though, it seems I have a growing interest. We shall see... Cheers, RickO

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,366 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 14, 2022 6:39AM

    I don't have anything against Trickels and think they can be quite nice :)

    Here's one I appreciate! It looks like it could be tab toned!

    https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1052201/trickels

  • calgolddivercalgolddiver Posts: 1,505 ✭✭✭✭✭

    one of mine from my type set:


    Top 20 Type Set 1792 to present

    Top 10 Cal Fractional Type Set

    successful BST with Ankurj, BigAl, Bullsitter, CommemKing, DCW(7), Downtown1974, Elmerfusterpuck, Joelewis, Mach1ne, Minuteman810430, Modcrewman, Nankraut, Nederveit2, Philographer(5), Realgator, Silverpop, SurfinxHI, TomB and Yorkshireman(3)

  • RandomsRandoms Posts: 164 ✭✭✭

    I’ll probably just end up with one for a type set. I often see one that I want to own

  • retirednowretirednow Posts: 574 ✭✭✭✭✭

    OMG ... My Mother was Right about Everything!
    I wake up with a Good Attitude Every Day. Then … Idiots Happen!

  • OmegaraptorOmegaraptor Posts: 541 ✭✭✭✭✭

    https://archive.org/details/guideusthreecent2003gifford/page/276/mode/2up

    Here is an online reference to the many varieties of the three-cent nickel piece. This covers just about every RPD, MPD, doubled die etc.

    "You can't get just one gun." "You can't get just one tattoo." "You can't get just one 1796 Draped Bust Large Cent."

  • Dr_BonesDr_Bones Posts: 73 ✭✭✭
    edited February 14, 2022 6:45PM

    I have pretty much completed my book on 3 cent patterns numbering about 320 pages that I have been accumulating data and information for about 45 years. Now I have to figure out what to do with it. With a likely interest of about 15 people, half of which would include my children and parents, have to figure out if I want to take the plunge and expense of self publishing.

    Visit USPatterns.com

  • retirednowretirednow Posts: 574 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Count me in on one copy

    If you have interest there many more e books omly being published and if u are near a collage it would be a nice study project for a class to help set it up and help publish, set up graphics , text formating proofing etc ... just need a professor and class that has an independent studies. Then just sell on ebay

    OMG ... My Mother was Right about Everything!
    I wake up with a Good Attitude Every Day. Then … Idiots Happen!

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