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Weekend Pickup....1911-d $2 1/2 ... Strong D


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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    nice pics through the flip. usually not an easy task.

    apologies to go off the point but have you ever shared a pic of your setup?

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    coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 10,768 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I cannot tell in the photo, does the coin have the correct diagnostic at the tip of the arrows?

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    CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 7,928 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice looking for a Strong D was this a cherry pick or did the seller know what he had? Also how well do you think it would grade? It appears to be in that 58 to 64 area.

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    JimTylerJimTyler Posts: 3,057 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I wouldn’t have had the 🏀 🏀 to buy that raw.

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 45,432 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @LanceNewmanOCC said:
    nice pics through the flip. usually not an easy task.

    That's not a flip. It appears to be a 2X2 cardboard staple holder. I'd like to see a pic outside the holder. The glare on the edge of the plastic make it difficult to check the diagnostics of this coin. The 1911-D quarter eagle has been very heavily counterfeited and many of these counterfeits are very deceptive. Getting it slabbed by a major grading service is very strongly suggested..

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    TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very brave to buy a raw piece

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The edge damage, showing clearly on the obverse image, is in the 'area' of the reverse mint mark.... Not saying this is indicative of anything... Just an observation that for me, would require in hand evaluation. Cheers, RickO

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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:
    Getting it slabbed by a major grading service is very strongly suggested..

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    i wasn't going to but since a couple of you guys bring it up. i'm not in love with the look of the mm in the op. the image is much larger if opened in new tab and/or d/l.

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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @icsoccer said:

    this isn't really an area i am comfortable with but comparing your mm to other coinfacts examples leads me to believe your coin is questionable. i'm not saying 100% it is counterfeit but it is likely and this leaves probably 2 choices as if it wasn't gold it would be quite obvious. 1. it is an authentic 1911 p $2.5 or 2. counterfeit with nearly the proper weight and gold content but with the premium surrounding this date/mm, that is probably moot. something weird going on with the area of the tip of the eagle's right wing.

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    sellitstoresellitstore Posts: 2,491 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 7, 2022 7:04AM

    The two photos of the reverse that the seller provided did not match. They looked like different coins. Estate auctions are quite risky and you better know what you are doing. Most of the coins in that auction, including this one, had been cleaned, and authenticity may be an issue with that one, too. It has the diagnostic wire rim, so I'm not judging it without having it in hand, but the two reverse pictures appeared to show different mintmarks, raising questions.

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    USMC_6115USMC_6115 Posts: 2,958 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Following....

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 45,432 ✭✭✭✭✭

    All things considered, I think the coin is real although I still think that it should be slabbed. Any slight differences in the mintmark can be explained by circulation wear. The mintmark is the only design element that is raised above the fields and it gets wear even after brief circulation.

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    icsoccericsoccer Posts: 1,339 ✭✭✭

    I took a PCGS AU55 example with me to compare, before I bought it.

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    olympicsosolympicsos Posts: 697 ✭✭✭✭

    Send it in to be slabbed. It's a travesty that it's raw lol.

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    TPRCTPRC Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @icsoccer said:
    I took a PCGS AU55 example with me to compare, before I bought it.

    Assuming it is not an altered mm, how did it compare for grade? I'm seeing a 45 details coin, 50 tops, though I don't pretend to be an expert. Also, what is going on at the top of the eagle's right wing?

    Tom

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    JonBrand83JonBrand83 Posts: 453 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 7, 2022 1:40PM

    Not an expert but I think it looks legit. It has the 'wire rim' and scalloping in the right places. I don't know if it would straight grade. Its pretty lackluster for the detail but the details appear correct. Usually the stars and the date would look off and these don't. I don't like how there is a ding by the mint mark. Id submit for piece of mind amongst other reasons. Do you have pics outside of the 2x2? The D is a little funky looking but sometimes they seem to be different.

    Edit to add I agree with @PerryHall about the glare. It makes the rim appear curved/buckled in the area of the wire rim and should not be. I've never seen a counterfeit coin with the wire rim replicated and I assume the glare is what we see.

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    airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 21,909 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @olympicsos said:
    Send it in to be slabbed. It's a travesty that it's raw lol.

    You should avoid walk through the Smithsonian's vault if you think one rare and valuable coin being raw is a travesty.

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    olympicsosolympicsos Posts: 697 ✭✭✭✭

    @airplanenut said:

    @olympicsos said:
    Send it in to be slabbed. It's a travesty that it's raw lol.

    You should avoid walk through the Smithsonian's vault if you think one rare and valuable coin being raw is a travesty.

    Well iirc some of them are in slabs?

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    airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 21,909 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @olympicsos said:

    @airplanenut said:

    @olympicsos said:
    Send it in to be slabbed. It's a travesty that it's raw lol.

    You should avoid walk through the Smithsonian's vault if you think one rare and valuable coin being raw is a travesty.

    Well iirc some of them are in slabs?

    Sort of... a very small subset is in unsealed slabs, and even that's recent. That vault has tens (hundreds?) of millions of dollars worth of coins that are in no plastic whatsoever.

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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @icsoccer said:

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    if you do send this off and get it back, please give us an update. i have a little more invested in this interaction than usual given the type and the key date. will probably influence how i handle situations like this in the future. thanks for the large images btw. :)

    i'm pulling for the coin being ok. :+1:

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    BullsitterBullsitter Posts: 5,340 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice piece.... B)

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