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Barber half: well-worn, dinged and dirty. Cleaned?

moursundmoursund Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭✭✭

For you souls with experienced eyes, what road of life has this half seen?
I rather like the look, for a very circulated coin.

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  • Project NumismaticsProject Numismatics Posts: 1,604 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a typical album coin. If you like it and the price is right, buy it.

  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Can I see both sides please? Thanks buddy 👍🏼

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  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 9,045 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'd rather do without the harsh cleaning!

    "When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"

  • moursundmoursund Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 3, 2022 8:43PM

    @Jzyskowski1 said:
    Can I see both sides please? Thanks buddy 👍🏼


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    Doesn'tquite make G04, or does it...Slider?
    But I really like it for my album. Just got a decent price on eBay auction.

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  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 9,045 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @moursund said:

    @Jzyskowski1 said:
    Can I see both sides please? Thanks buddy 👍🏼


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    Doesn'tquite make G04, or does it...Slider?
    But I really like it for my album. Just got a decent price on eBay auction.

    Well does make a good album coin till an upgrade - EH?

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is a nice old coin.... Lots of circulation wear... but great for an album. A good price makes it even better. Cheers, RickO

  • moursundmoursund Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    That is a nice old coin.... Lots of circulation wear... but great for an album. A good price makes it even better. Cheers, RickO

    Yes, hard to find them with a halfway decent rim on the reverse, without spending three figures. 😉

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  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,264 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 5, 2022 8:06AM

    How much you have to pay for it? I like it as an AG-03.

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  • moursundmoursund Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @mr1874 said:
    How much you have to pay for it? I like it as an AG-03.

    Got it for $61.50, including shipping. Booya! B)

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  • OldEastsideOldEastside Posts: 4,602 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'd wager that it has seen a mardi gras or 3

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  • HigashiyamaHigashiyama Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As others have said, after years and years of circulation, lower grade Barber halves often have fine scratches that make them look like they were lightly brushed. These marks can be accentuated in a photo.

    Grading can be a bit tricky because the reverse rims seem to wear into the devices when the obverse is still strong. I’ve seen quite a few where the obverse looks VG08 but the reverse looks AG03.

    The raw coin posted is almost unusual in having a consistent obverse and reverse. I would call it a solid AG03, almost making it to G04. The ANACS coin is a nice example.

    Higashiyama
  • ms71ms71 Posts: 1,546 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Possible album "slide lines" from the clear slides that hold the coins in?

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  • moursundmoursund Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OldEastside said:
    I'd wager that it has seen a mardi gras or 3

    Steve

    Wonder what you could buy during Mardi gras in 1897 for 2 bits... Plenty, I'll bet!

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  • moursundmoursund Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Higashiyama said:
    As others have said, after years and years of circulation, lower grade Barber halves often have fine scratches that make them look like they were lightly brushed. These marks can be accentuated in a photo.

    Grading can be a bit tricky because the reverse rims seem to wear into the devices when the obverse is still strong. I’ve seen quite a few where the obverse looks VG08 but the reverse looks AG03.

    The raw coin posted is almost unusual in having a consistent obverse and reverse. I would call it a solid AG03, almost making it to G04. The ANACS coin is a nice example.

    Now I'm looking for a similar 1897 S, hopefully in similar price range 🙂

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  • OldEastsideOldEastside Posts: 4,602 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @moursund said:

    @OldEastside said:
    I'd wager that it has seen a mardi gras or 3

    Steve

    Wonder what you could buy during Mardi gras in 1897 for 2 bits... Plenty, I'll bet!

    4 bits and probably a really good time :blush:

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  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,264 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @moursund said:

    @mr1874 said:
    How much you have to pay for it? I like it as an AG-03.

    Got it for $61.50, including shipping. Booya! B)

    Well, you didn't pay too much for it. That's always a good thing.

    Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.-Albert Einstein

  • moursundmoursund Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 5, 2022 12:35PM

    @OldEastside said:

    @moursund said:

    @OldEastside said:
    I'd wager that it has seen a mardi gras or 3

    Steve

    Wonder what you could buy during Mardi gras in 1897 for 2 bits... Plenty, I'll bet!

    4 bits and probably a really good time :blush:

    Steve

    Edited to say:. Don't know why all of a sudden I started thinking the barber half was a quarter... At least I didn't bid on the wrong one!

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  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,613 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The coin doesn't make G4 in my opinion. I would suggest you attempt to go with G4 or G6 coins since they are quite a bit tougher to find than an AG3, yet they don't cost all that much more. However, it is all up to you. One of the wonderful things about the Barber half dollar series is that there are no stoppers or super expensive coins, as long as you aren't collecting gems.

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  • CoinHoarderCoinHoarder Posts: 2,609 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 5, 2022 2:52PM

    I love coins like that with good honest wear!

    Sometimes I will find common date Barber coinage that looks like that in my "junk" silver searches at my LCS. I snag em, and put em in the perma stack!

  • HigashiyamaHigashiyama Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TomB said: One of the wonderful things about the Barber half dollar series is that there are no stoppers or super expensive coins, as long as you aren't collecting gems.

    Yes! One of my COVID era projects has been a Barber half set, with a focus on VG-F coins. I’m looking for coins that have an even gunmetal gray look, with charcoal highlights around the devices—to me, this is the classic well circulated Barber look. It’s a bit harder to assemble than I expected; to make a sweeping generalization, the 19th century coins are harder than the 20th century one. In fact, the lower mintage 20th century coins are fairly easy, perhaps because collectors paid attention to them?

    Higashiyama
  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,548 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ** It’s a bit harder to assemble than I expected; to make a sweeping generalization, the 19th century coins are harder than the 20th century one. In fact, the lower mintage 20th century coins are fairly easy, perhaps because collectors paid attention to them?**

    I think the earlier dates had longer to circulate, prior to being “set aside”.
    That said, my experience with VF-AU halves years back was many of the mint marked coins prior to 1906 were also difficult. The 01s and 05o immediately come to mind.

    Low grade pieces of all dates and mm’s are readily available, in proportion to their mintages.
    One of my dealer friends from many years ago had a brother who assembled three complete roll sets of B halves from bank roll searches and junk silver piles back in the 1960’s.

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  • jedmjedm Posts: 3,069 ✭✭✭✭✭

    One of the sets that I put together that was very fun. I tried for full rims as a minimum but on some of the tougher ones I settled on some weaker examples. As @TomB said the absence of stoppers or super expensive rarities like in the quarter series made it an enjoyable quest. Have fun!

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