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2013-D 1c Shield Penny horizontal stripes?

What are these Horizontal stripes on both Obv and Rev, you can see it on Lincolns forehead, face, it runs throughout the Obv and on the rev too!. Thanks

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 38,618 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Probably roller marks

  • roller marks?, really?

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 38,618 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It’s in the realm of possibility

    Before plating, zinc blanks are rolled and punched.

    https://www.coinworld.com/numismatic/coin-world-collector-basics-unplated-planchet-error-coins-numismatics-coin-collecting-hobby.html

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes, they look like roller marks... the plating tends to accentuate the appearance of the lines. Cheers, RickO

  • "Look Like"? ... Lol!

  • those are not roller marks, it is a alloy mix error!.. improper alloy mix (IAM)

  • ElmerFusterpuckElmerFusterpuck Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @USCoinHunter said:
    "Look Like"? ... Lol!

    So you come on here just to troll and be a know it all. Why ask when you already "know" the answer?

  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 11,117 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Please explain just how an alloy mix error could create multiples of straight parallel lines? Even if the alloy mix created a softer or more susceptible to damage metal, would not something still have to create the lines, such as a roller?
    Jim


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  • OldhoopsterOldhoopster Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @USCoinHunter said:
    those are not roller marks, it is a alloy mix error!.. improper alloy mix (IAM)

    Improper alloy? What alloy? The core is Zn, the plating is Cu. There are no metal alloys in this coin.

    Spend some time looking at more plated cents. These parallel lines are common, especially on cents from the 80s and 90s. It's nothing more than process variability from rolling and/or plating. Not an error of any kind (and certainly not an improper alloy)

    Member of the ANA since 1982
  • @Oldhoopster said:

    @USCoinHunter said:
    those are not roller marks, it is a alloy mix error!.. improper alloy mix (IAM)

    Improper alloy? What alloy? The core is Zn, the plating is Cu. There are no metal alloys in this coin.

    **Improper Alloy Mix
    PART V. Planchet Errors:
    Improper Alloy Mix
    **
    Definition: The term “improper alloy mix” can apply to two related errors. The constituent metals of a solid-alloy coin can be well-mixed but in the wrong proportions. In the case of a copper-alloy cent with too much tin or zinc, this will result in a brassy color. Alternatively, the constituent metals can be in the right proportions but poorly mixed. This will leave the coin with light and dark bands. Of course, the two mistakes can occur together.
    https://www.error-ref.com/improper-alloy-mix/

  • OldhoopsterOldhoopster Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @USCoinHunter said:

    @Oldhoopster said:

    @USCoinHunter said:
    those are not roller marks, it is a alloy mix error!.. improper alloy mix (IAM)

    Improper alloy? What alloy? The core is Zn, the plating is Cu. There are no metal alloys in this coin.

    **Improper Alloy Mix
    PART V. Planchet Errors:
    Improper Alloy Mix
    **
    Definition: The term “improper alloy mix” can apply to two related errors. The constituent metals of a solid-alloy coin can be well-mixed but in the wrong proportions. In the case of a copper-alloy cent with too much tin or zinc, this will result in a brassy color. Alternatively, the constituent metals can be in the right proportions but poorly mixed. This will leave the coin with light and dark bands. Of course, the two mistakes can occur together.
    https://www.error-ref.com/improper-alloy-mix/

    You Still seem to be confused. The cent contains 2 homogenous components, the Zn core and Cu plating. It can't be improperly mixed if nothing is mixed

    I recommend spending some additional time learning and understanding the minting process.

    Member of the ANA since 1982
  • gonzergonzer Posts: 3,072 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Halftime entertainment?

  • JBKJBK Posts: 17,262 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Oldhoopster said:

    @USCoinHunter said:

    @Oldhoopster said:

    @USCoinHunter said:
    those are not roller marks, it is a alloy mix error!.. improper alloy mix (IAM)

    Improper alloy? What alloy? The core is Zn, the plating is Cu. There are no metal alloys in this coin.

    **Improper Alloy Mix
    PART V. Planchet Errors:
    Improper Alloy Mix
    **
    Definition: The term “improper alloy mix” can apply to two related errors. The constituent metals of a solid-alloy coin can be well-mixed but in the wrong proportions. In the case of a copper-alloy cent with too much tin or zinc, this will result in a brassy color. Alternatively, the constituent metals can be in the right proportions but poorly mixed. This will leave the coin with light and dark bands. Of course, the two mistakes can occur together.
    https://www.error-ref.com/improper-alloy-mix/

    You Still seem to be confused. The cent contains 2 homogenous components, the Zn core and Cu plating. It can't be improperly mixed if nothing is mixed

    I recommend spending some additional time learning and understanding the minting process.

    What he said.

    OP is reading a description that applies to alloys, which does not apply to zinc cents.

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 38,618 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 13, 2022 3:53PM

    Alloy is a mix of metals

    The core is pure zinc
    The plating is pure copper

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 38,618 ✭✭✭✭✭

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 38,618 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 13, 2022 4:25PM

    that image is taken from this thread:
    https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1071108/1909-s-vdb-woodgrain-toning-a-negative-or-positive

    notice the ragged edges to the striping. that is how an improper alloy mix will look.

  • Nice IAM image!!

  • What do you think about this one?..

  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a counting machine skid mark under all that green. But you tell us what you think it is?



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