Convince me that there's a difference between "Cabinet Friction" and Rub or Wear.

fastfreddie

@moursund said:

@fastfreddie said:

@MasonG said:

@fastfreddie said:

@MasonG said:
Knowing that a coin did not get a CAC sticker doesn't really tell you anything about the coin.

It tells me that it wasn't an A or B for the grade given.

You didn't give a grade. So telling someone it didn't CAC doesn't tell them anything.

I figured if I gave the grade, it might make it too easy. What else can't I tell you.

Was it even submitted to CAC?

yes

jmlanzaf

@Barberian said:

@MrEureka said:
Cabinet friction can be very obvious when the friction takes place after the coin has acquired a patina.

Could it be that storage in a cabinet prevents the coin from acquiring a patina where the coin is in contact with the cabinet?

Felt was not typically archival quality.

jmlanzaf

@fastfreddie said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@fastfreddie said:

Cabinet friction or wear? I'll post the grade later. Would not CAC.

Definitely wear.

I'll concur but graded p62 which is why there is no CAC for me. I still love the coin though.

It's a nice coin either way.

krueger

Fudging wear away by saying: well , it's "so and so kind of rub so it's still unc.
In The old pre slabbed days there was the "SLIDER" being marketed/ sold as an UNC game--
Some things never change. The Wolf just changes clothes!

Joey29

@jmlanzaf said:

@Joey29 said:

@coastaljerseyguy said:
Great conversation, but to twist the OP's question around a little:

• Should a coin with obvious friction be graded MS by the TPGs?

Know this has been debated here several times, and in my opinion, they can have friction and still have no wear from circulation, and grade MS. Buyers will judge accordingly if it meets their standards for the grade.

What do you think about the grading of this coin?

Not a full head.

I meant the grade of 64? JA told me slight friction on knee prevented a CAC sticker, although coin is fully lustrous with no discernible marks I can see on the rest of the obverse.

MFeld

@krueger said:
Fudging wear away by saying: well , it's "so and so kind of rub so it's still unc.
In The old pre slabbed days there was the "SLIDER" being marketed/ sold as an UNC game--
Some things never change. The Wolf just changes clothes!

I believe I heard the term “cabinet friction” prior to the “old pre slabbed days”. So perhaps, the wolf hasn’t really changed clothes.