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The Crescent Moon Eisenhower Dollar - largest clipped planchet ever?

ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,113 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited January 17, 2022 6:57AM in U.S. Coin Forum

Here's an amazing 1977 Ike Dollar error I found while looking for clipped planchets.

This one isn't just large, it's huge. Anyone know what percentage clipped this would be?

A very nice thing about this is that the following are full:

  1. Ike's face including eye and mouth
  2. Eagle's head
  3. Moon
  4. Date (at least legible)
  5. UNITED STATES
  6. IN GOD WE TRUST

Has anyone seen anything larger or coming close?

Anyone know if this is slabbed?

Source: https://coinauctionshelp.com/clipped-planchet-mint-error/

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,084 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow! That's a huge clip and the date is still visible. B)

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  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 8,947 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There's got to be an equation that can reveal the missing volume but I don't know it. Peace Roy

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    :o Wow.... Never saw one that large..... Assumedly it was found in a bag of coins... Cheers, RickO

  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,574 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 17, 2022 5:10AM

    Possibly the largest curved clip on an Ike.
    I have a 74 percent curved clip dime with date, and have seen a lincoln cent thats 75 percent clipped without the date.

    @Zoins
    It has to be weighed to determine how large the clip is because the metal flows into the clipped portion.

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  • NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 10,997 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow that's cool.

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,113 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 17, 2022 8:11AM

    @gumby1234 said:
    Possibly the largest curved clip on an Ike.
    I have a 74 percent curved clip dime with date, and have seen a lincoln cent thats 75 percent clipped without the date.

    @Zoins
    It has to be weighed to determine how large the clip is because the metal flows into the clipped portion.

    Wow! That’s great!

    So the Ike may be the greatest in terms of mass or weight clipped but has competition in terms of percent of mass given these 2 other coins.

    That being said, I’m not sure the Ike would be as aesthetically pleasing if the clip were larger due to the potential cutting off of more of Ike’s face, the Eagle’s head, and the date. It’s almost perfect for an Ike. The detail that is left is really amazing.

  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,574 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I wonder where that Ike is. It would be a great addition to my collection. :)

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,091 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:

    @Namvet69 said:
    There's got to be an equation that can reveal the missing volume but I don't know it. Peace Roy

    Compare the weight of this coin to the weight of a non-error Ike dollar. Simple math exercise.

    Exactly.

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,113 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 17, 2022 7:11AM

    @PerryHall said:

    @Namvet69 said:
    There's got to be an equation that can reveal the missing volume but I don't know it. Peace Roy

    Compare the weight of this coin to the weight of a non-error Ike dollar. Simple math exercise.

    That's the way to do it, but it's not simple when all you have are photos! :'(

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,113 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 17, 2022 7:13AM

    @gumby1234 said:
    I wonder where that Ike is. It would be a great addition to my collection. :)

    Great question! I don't know but it would be great to find out.

    Any thoughts Mike @Byers and @FredWeinberg?

  • ByersByers Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Zoins
    I have seen it before but don’t know where.

    Here is another fascinating Ike Dollar mint error from a clipped and or scrap planchet. This one is struck on a 9.5 gram scrap planchet PCGS MS 63.

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  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's one crazy Ike clip, very nice.

    I bought this large (crescent) clip nickel raw and had certified. Great to have the date on such a piece.

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,113 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 17, 2022 3:18PM

    Does this the OP crescent coin look like a 1977-D?

    It looks like could be a "D" mintmark to me! It looks like there could be a partial "D" on the clip edge.

    Here's an approximate overlay with a TrueView to compare, showing the "D on the edge.

    And the full TrueView image:

  • Mr Lindy Mr Lindy Posts: 1,085 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There's a better, more appealing True by weight via Herbert's Hobby Standard 60%+ Crescent in ANA Museum. It was given away by its owner with dozens of others when the Good Doctor Berry learned of those multimint releases back in that day, A multi mint abundance of Shenanigans deception. Denver, Philly and San Franscico all produced epic, well thought out, indeed I am certain, conceived errors made to be collector treasures. Many were daylighted by Lonesome John's deep pocket cash purchases by 1977 which were rewards to those Mint's floor employees some 40+ years ago. Philly, Denver and San Fran Shenanigans are incredibly well represented. Proofs are easy to critique but others from Philly and Denver were on the LJ and others money train. Pay attention, shop wisely as 1 or 2 of millions is rare, but most were actually made for resale. In spite of this, I Still I shop & choose, filling in holes. Most of the outlanndish errors from these decades were made for collectors, I remain certain of this. And I have shopped, with my eyes wide open for 3+ decades. Anyone still think five 1913 Liberty 5c are legit, all owned by a Philly Mint Employee from 1913 ?

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,113 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 17, 2022 5:18PM

    @LindyS said:
    There's a better, more appealing True by weight via Herbert's Hobby Standard 60%+ Crescent in ANA Museum. It was given away by its owner with dozens of others

    Does the ANA have photos of this online? They have photos of somethings in specific exhibits but I wish they would put their entire collection online in a consistent way. The ANS has this and it's much appreciated.

    Most of the outlanndish errors from these decades were made for collectors, I remain certain of this. And I have shopped, with my eyes wide open for 3+ decades. Anyone still think five 1913 Liberty 5c are legit, all owned by a Philly Mint Employee from 1913 ?

    Is the outcome that the more of a fantasy a coin is, the more demand there is for it?

  • Mr Lindy Mr Lindy Posts: 1,085 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Vast majority of my error coin library is in deep storage.
    Some things I xerox'd for handy access.
    Here's the 1971D $ Crescent Clip Dr Berry donated to ANA
    I've seen it displayed a couple times at the Museum since 1980's

    @Zoins said:
    Here's an amazing 1977 Ike Dollar error I found while looking for clipped planchets.

    This one isn't just large, it's huge. Anyone know what percentage clipped this would be?

    A very nice thing about this is that the following are full:

    1. Ike's face including eye and mouth
    2. Eagle's head
    3. Moon
    4. Date (at least legible)
    5. UNITED STATES
    6. IN GOD WE TRUST

    Has anyone seen anything larger or coming close?

    Anyone know if this is slabbed?

    Source: https://coinauctionshelp.com/clipped-planchet-mint-error/

  • Mr Lindy Mr Lindy Posts: 1,085 ✭✭✭✭✭


    I especially like the incorrect error diagnosis on this slab

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,113 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • moursundmoursund Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Clipped planchets are only so-so interesting... but those HUGE CRESCENT IKE clips are fantastic!

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  • gonzergonzer Posts: 3,024 ✭✭✭✭✭

    At what point is a coin considered struck on scrap instead of being clipped?

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gonzer said:
    At what point is a coin considered struck on scrap instead of being clipped?

    I suppose the shape and condition of the struck piece.

  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,815 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've always considered that it was 50% or more missing
    from the 'clip' that makes it a piece of scrap.

    Don't know who or when that started, but I know
    it goes back at least 40 years or so.

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  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,815 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I meant to say 51% or more

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  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,497 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    :o Wow.... Never saw one that large..... Assumedly it was found in a bag of coins... Cheers, RickO

    That’s what she said. Sorry couldn’t resist.

  • ByersByers Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 18, 2022 2:51PM

    Some of the PCGS and NGC clipped and or scrap, over 50% by weight say scrap. But I have noticed that both services sometimes puts the % ( example 74% clipped planchet) but does not call it scrap…so there is not a standard used consistently.

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  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,642 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I do not have a struck crescent clip to compare to the ones in this thread, but back when I was first collecting clips I was given the clipped cent blank below by west coast error dealer Neil Osina, after I placed a large order from his mailing list. I didn't get a good picture of the back but on the flip he wrote "It's Real!"

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  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,139 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You know that gigantic gold Maple Canada made a few years ago to the tune of hundreds of pounds? Well here’s an enormous 100% clip of that!

    .

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  • moursundmoursund Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @airplanenut said:
    You know that gigantic gold Maple Canada made a few years ago to the tune of hundreds of pounds? Well here’s an enormous 100% clip of that!

    .

    Nice! They didn't actually use a planchet. Maybe you should include a picture of a newspaper clipping... 😉

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,084 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @airplanenut said:
    You know that gigantic gold Maple Canada made a few years ago to the tune of hundreds of pounds? Well here’s an enormous 100% clip of that!

    Can we please get a pic of the reverse side?

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  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,139 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:

    @airplanenut said:
    You know that gigantic gold Maple Canada made a few years ago to the tune of hundreds of pounds? Well here’s an enormous 100% clip of that!

    Can we please get a pic of the reverse side?

    Here ya go!

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,084 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @airplanenut said:

    @PerryHall said:

    @airplanenut said:
    You know that gigantic gold Maple Canada made a few years ago to the tune of hundreds of pounds? Well here’s an enormous 100% clip of that!

    Can we please get a pic of the reverse side?

    Here ya go!

    Thanks. I looks just like I thought it would. ;)

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,091 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @FredWeinberg said:
    I've always considered that it was 50% or more missing
    from the 'clip' that makes it a piece of scrap.

    Don't know who or when that started, but I know
    it goes back at least 40 years or so.

    Fred, what about an incomplete clip that separates after the strike? You could have a crescent well under 50% by weight that is by no means struck on scrap.

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  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CaptHenway said:

    @FredWeinberg said:
    I've always considered that it was 50% or more missing
    from the 'clip' that makes it a piece of scrap.

    Don't know who or when that started, but I know
    it goes back at least 40 years or so.

    Fred, what about an incomplete clip that separates after the strike? You could have a crescent well under 50% by weight that is by no means struck on scrap.

    Good question. Here is one of my incomplete clips that is still attached, but would be a crescent if separated.

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,091 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @LindyS said:
    There's a better, more appealing True by weight via Herbert's Hobby Standard 60%+ Crescent in ANA Museum. It was given away by its owner with dozens of others when the Good Doctor Berry learned of those multimint releases back in that day, A multi mint abundance of Shenanigans deception. Denver, Philly and San Franscico all produced epic, well thought out, indeed I am certain, conceived errors made to be collector treasures. Many were daylighted by Lonesome John's deep pocket cash purchases by 1977 which were rewards to those Mint's floor employees some 40+ years ago. Philly, Denver and San Fran Shenanigans are incredibly well represented. Proofs are easy to critique but others from Philly and Denver were on the LJ and others money train. Pay attention, shop wisely as 1 or 2 of millions is rare, but most were actually made for resale. In spite of this, I Still I shop & choose, filling in holes. Most of the outlanndish errors from these decades were made for collectors, I remain certain of this. And I have shopped, with my eyes wide open for 3+ decades. Anyone still think five 1913 Liberty 5c are legit, all owned by a Philly Mint Employee from 1913 ?

    It is true that Dr. Berry gave up on collecting dollar errors and donated his collection to the ANA Museum after becoming disillusioned when he found out that he had been sold many deliberately made errors, but by no means was everything in his collection deliberately made. During my time as Senior Authenticator at ANACS (early 80's) I was asked by the Museum Curator to evaluate the donation piece by piece and identify what I thought was deliberate and what I thought was unintentional. I assume that my notes were somehow incorporated into the accession records. It has been some 40 years, but as I recall over half of it was what I called legitimate.

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,113 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 19, 2022 8:15AM

    @CaptHenway said:

    @LindyS said:
    There's a better, more appealing True by weight via Herbert's Hobby Standard 60%+ Crescent in ANA Museum. It was given away by its owner with dozens of others when the Good Doctor Berry learned of those multimint releases back in that day, A multi mint abundance of Shenanigans deception. Denver, Philly and San Franscico all produced epic, well thought out, indeed I am certain, conceived errors made to be collector treasures. Many were daylighted by Lonesome John's deep pocket cash purchases by 1977 which were rewards to those Mint's floor employees some 40+ years ago. Philly, Denver and San Fran Shenanigans are incredibly well represented. Proofs are easy to critique but others from Philly and Denver were on the LJ and others money train. Pay attention, shop wisely as 1 or 2 of millions is rare, but most were actually made for resale. In spite of this, I Still I shop & choose, filling in holes. Most of the outlanndish errors from these decades were made for collectors, I remain certain of this. And I have shopped, with my eyes wide open for 3+ decades. Anyone still think five 1913 Liberty 5c are legit, all owned by a Philly Mint Employee from 1913 ?

    It is true that Dr. Berry gave up on collecting dollar errors and donated his collection to the ANA Museum after becoming disillusioned when he found out that he had been sold many deliberately made errors, but by no means was everything in his collection deliberately made. During my time as Senior Authenticator at ANACS (early 80's) I was asked by the Museum Curator to evaluate the donation piece by piece and identify what I thought was deliberate and what I thought was unintentional. I assume that my notes were somehow incorporated into the accession records. It has been some 40 years, but as I recall over half of it was what I called legitimate.

    Too bad Dr. Berry gave up if over half his collection was legit!

    The flip side is that we see potentially intentional errors going through roof in terms of price now.

    I hope he realizes the worth of his collection.

  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,815 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Dr. Berry passed away a long time ago -
    Don't remember the year, but it was
    well over 30 years ago, I believe.

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  • Mr Lindy Mr Lindy Posts: 1,085 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Potential Elliptical & Crescent with curve clip and rim clip on this Type 2 Copper Cent Planchet
    Nice step illustrates the failure of gang punch to fully shear the planchet on its first pass thru the punches.



  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,642 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @LindyS said:
    Potential Elliptical & Crescent with curve clip and rim clip on this Type 2 Copper Cent Planchet
    Nice step illustrates the failure of gang punch to fully shear the planchet on its first pass thru the punches.


    This is extremely cool, I cannot recall having seen another incomplete clip on a blank cent planchet before. Thank you for sharing the pics.

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  • moursundmoursund Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:

    @airplanenut said:

    @PerryHall said:

    @airplanenut said:
    You know that gigantic gold Maple Canada made a few years ago to the tune of hundreds of pounds? Well here’s an enormous 100% clip of that!

    Can we please get a pic of the reverse side?

    Here ya go!

    Thanks. I looks just like I thought it would. ;)

    I was expecting the reverse to be "upside down", but then i realized that Canadian coins use the medallion orientation. Makes sense now... ;)

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  • ByersByers Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 19, 2022 11:38AM

    @Zoins said:

    “The flip side is that we see potentially intentional errors going through roof in terms of price now. I hope he realizes the worth of his collection.”

    Yes!!

    As documented in 6 or 7 Mint Error News articles on strong proof mint error prices in Heritage Auctions… his collection is worth multiples of the value at that time!

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  • ByersByers Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CaptHenway said:

    “ It is true that Dr. Berry gave up on collecting dollar errors and donated his collection to the ANA Museum after becoming disillusioned when he found out that he had been sold many deliberately made errors, but by no means was everything in his collection deliberately made. During my time as Senior Authenticator at ANACS (early 80's) I was asked by the Museum Curator to evaluate the donation piece by piece and identify what I thought was deliberate and what I thought was unintentional. I assume that my notes were somehow incorporated into the accession records. It has been some 40 years, but as I recall over half of it was what I called legitimate.”

    In my opinion, Dr Berry’s Ike collection was half intentionally struck and half accidentally struck.

    In the 70’s I would drive to Lonesome John’s office in NewBury Park ,CA and then drive to Dr Berry’s office in Alhambra, CA and sell him exotic proof errors.

    My favorite was the proof clover of 3 mated Ikes on nickel planchets that I sold him. He told me many times subsequently that it was his favorite as well.

    There may have been several reasons why he donated his collection. Tax reasons, name recognition, and disillusion.

    But he sure was very excited purchasing proof error coins from me for several years over 10 or so trips to his office.

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  • ByersByers Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Zoins

    Speaking of largest Ike clips ever….

    My favorite hands down is the silver proof Ike with a humongous curved clip:

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  • Mr Lindy Mr Lindy Posts: 1,085 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have ANA 2 page xerox list of his ANA donation, his collection of errors. I got it while his errors were on display, a handy hand out.
    I agree half are shenanigans that were thoughtfully mint assisted & half are legit.
    But, concerning his natural legit errors that may have been riddled out of coinage stream, set aside to be destroyed but are instead spirited out, is this OK ?

    @Byers said:
    @CaptHenway said:

    “ It is true that Dr. Berry gave up on collecting dollar errors and donated his collection to the ANA Museum after becoming disillusioned when he found out that he had been sold many deliberately made errors, but by no means was everything in his collection deliberately made. During my time as Senior Authenticator at ANACS (early 80's) I was asked by the Museum Curator to evaluate the donation piece by piece and identify what I thought was deliberate and what I thought was unintentional. I assume that my notes were somehow incorporated into the accession records. It has been some 40 years, but as I recall over half of it was what I called legitimate.”

    In my opinion, Dr Berry’s Ike collection was half intentionally struck and half accidentally struck.

    In the 70’s I would drive to Lonesome John’s office in NewBury Park ,CA and then drive to Dr Berry’s office in Alhambra, CA and sell him exotic proof errors.

    My favorite was the proof clover of 3 mated Ikes on nickel planchets that I sold him. He told me many times subsequently that it was his favorite as well.

    There may have been several reasons why he donated his collection. Tax reasons, name recognition, and disillusion.

    But he sure was very excited purchasing proof error coins from me for several years over 10 or so trips to his office.

  • ByersByers Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @LindyS said:

    “But, concerning his natural legit errors that may have been riddled out of coinage stream, set aside to be destroyed but are instead spirited out, is this OK ?”

    Good point!!

    I guess there are 3 categories:

    1. Intentionally produced and ‘removed’
    2. Not intentionally produced but ‘removed’
    3. Not intentionally produced and accidentally released in rolls, bags, ballistic bags, mint sets, proof sets etc…
    mikebyers.com Dealer in Major Mint Errors, Die Trials & Patterns - Author of NLG Best World Coin Book World's Greatest Mint Errors - Publisher & Editor of minterrornews.com.
  • Mr Lindy Mr Lindy Posts: 1,085 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Dr Berry's Handy Handout

  • ByersByers Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 19, 2022 12:25PM

    Here are the only 3 known bronze Ike Dollars!

    The 2 Denver Mint Ike Dollars struck for circulation from Dr. Berry’s Collection…

    And my San Francisco Mint Ike Dollar struck by proof dies, which I sold for a record price.


    mikebyers.com Dealer in Major Mint Errors, Die Trials & Patterns - Author of NLG Best World Coin Book World's Greatest Mint Errors - Publisher & Editor of minterrornews.com.
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,091 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for printing the inventory. As I said, a lot of good stuff in there!

    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,113 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 5, 2022 11:06AM

    1977 Eisenhower Dollar - Clipped Planchet Error
    Grade: PCGS MS64
    Error: 61% Clipped Scrap Planchet
    Cert: https://www.pcgs.com/cert/11885979
    Sale: https://coins.ha.com/itm/errors/-/a/1121-6295.s?ic4=GalleryView-ShortDescription-071515

    Wow, while looking up some errors on Heritage I found out that this was sold by Heritage in 2009 for $5,462.50!

    Now we just need a TrueView :)

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