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edited January 27, 2022 12:24PM in U.S. Coin Forum

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Private Mint News | 2010 Lincoln Reverse Finalists

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,489 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 15, 2022 4:25AM

    @MsMorrisine said:
    “No Date”

    Hmm. Is this an error label too?

    The date is an issue. Is it still a Jammed Strike?

    Calling Mike @Byers and Chris @ErrorsOnCoins!

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    ByersByers Posts: 1,976 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 15, 2022 9:50AM

    @Zoins said:

    “ Hmm. Is this an error label too?”

    Obviously either a major typo OR 2 mint errors got mixed up tags.

    Mistakes happen.

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 34,213 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A new one on me.

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    privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,872 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sure looks like a readable date to me.

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    Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,426 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is weird that an obvious date was overlooked. Where's Fred? Peace Roy

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,809 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Namvet69 said:
    That is weird that an obvious date was overlooked. Where's Fred? Peace Roy

    You can see the date TWICE! I don't know what happened, but that coin needs to get a do over.

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    Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,426 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This is why coins should not be examined and graded after lunch on Fridays.

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    JBKJBK Posts: 17,908 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 15, 2022 12:42PM

    :D

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    SullivanNumismaticsSullivanNumismatics Posts: 897 ✭✭✭✭

    I don't know why it was described as "jammed." I'd bet it was a mistake, no pun intended.

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    goodmoney4badmoneygoodmoney4badmoney Posts: 1,331 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The label also says it’s a cent and not a nickel, clearly the label was meant for another coin.

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,489 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 15, 2022 5:41AM

    @goodmoney4badmoney said:
    The label also says it’s a cent and not a nickel, clearly the label was meant for another coin.

    Good catch! Clearly a mechanical error.

    Now, I need to go find the actual jammed strike coin!

    I'll ask our host to delete this thread as it's clearly a mistake.

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    FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 6,046 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’d love to comment but the picture has been pulled apparently

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Oh no!!! The original message is gone.... :'( What will I do... Sleepless nights ahead... What was it?? Help!!! Cheers, RickO

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,809 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Zoins Why did you start a thread and then delete the opening post? Others here have done the same thing. I'm going to have to start using the quote feature more often in the future on the opening post. :#

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,489 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 16, 2022 8:36AM

    @PerryHall said:
    @Zoins Why did you start a thread and then delete the opening post?

    Some of the responses had me concerned that the forum rules may have been violated and I wanted to stop this type of posts. Here's the rule I'm thinking of:

    PCGS Forum Rules and Guidelines - Updated 4/19/2021

    Posts must not contain libelous (accusatory, attacking) remarks concerning any individual, company, or other entity.

    I'm concerned the following posts may violate the rule mentioned above, and as the thread starter, I'm responsible for what happens in the thread. I hope people will be more mindful of the forum rules.

    @Namvet69 said:
    This is why coins should not be examined and graded after lunch on Fridays.

    @JBK said:

    I recommend the posters delete their posts and I will remove the quotes.

    I've asked our hosts to delete this thread. Please be mindful of your posts.

    Edit: thanks for the edit @JBK!

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    braddickbraddick Posts: 25,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @FredWeinberg said:
    I’d love to comment but the picture has been pulled apparently

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,809 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @braddick said:

    @FredWeinberg said:
    I’d love to comment but the picture has been pulled apparently

    Yup. That was the coin Zoins posted in the opening post with the blundered label. The label says "No Date" yet the date is clearly visible. Also, what is a "Jammed Strike"? Is this a new type of mint error?

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    ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 15, 2022 9:41AM

    Label error.

    Dated double struck die cap error coin.

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    ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,915 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The cert look up shows 1986 P and 5C
    https://www.pcgs.com/cert/29213967

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    ByersByers Posts: 1,976 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    “Dated double struck die cap error coin.”

    Yes. The last strike was the off center ‘exit strike’ which ejected the die cap out of the collar…

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    FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 6,046 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes that label obviously is incorrect

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    JBKJBK Posts: 17,908 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 15, 2022 12:41PM

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    JBKJBK Posts: 17,908 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 15, 2022 12:44PM

    @Zoins

    As requested, despite the odd reaction. :#

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 34,213 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Now that we have established that the label refers to a different coin entirely, I would still like to know what a "jammed strike" is. I have dabbled in errors for a few years, and am unfamiliar with the term.

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 40,198 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 15, 2022 1:37PM

    Jammed strike - short hand, one-liner, for Die Cap with Brockage?

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    IkesTIkesT Posts: 4,641 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Always fun to randomly come across a coin you recognize in print. Check out the issue of COINage magazine below from February, 1989. You might say they "jammed" the OP coin right on the cover. ;)

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    DNADaveDNADave Posts: 7,350 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 22, 2022 7:47PM

    Not the same coin IMO. Look at nose area of top strike

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    IkesTIkesT Posts: 4,641 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DNADave said:
    Not the same coin

    Look again, my friend. ;)

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    DNADaveDNADave Posts: 7,350 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @IkesT said:

    @DNADave said:
    Not the same coin

    Look again, my friend. ;)

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    IkesTIkesT Posts: 4,641 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 22, 2022 7:58PM

    @DNADave It's a very oddly-shaped coin. You've neglected to account for the tilt of the coin in the cover photo. We're simply viewing the coin from different angles in each photo. It is definitely the same coin. :)

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 34,213 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Same coin. Different angles and lighting.

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    burfle23burfle23 Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting post; glad some had images so it all made sense...

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,809 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 23, 2022 8:24AM

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,489 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 23, 2022 8:33AM

    @burfle23 said:
    Interesting post; glad some had images so it all made sense...

    It's a good coin and interesting topic.

    We'll all be better off if everyone follows the forum rules.

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    burfle23burfle23 Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Mechanical errors happen in all walks of life; this one led to some relevant discussions and I learned a little which I always consider a good thing!

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