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Eisenhower Dollar Set Question

Question for the Ike collectors: I put together a couple of Ike sets for fun. I have one set that is all PCGS certified coins and one set that is raw (self slabbed in Coinworld Holders). In both sets, I have all the 40% silver issues, the 71-D Friendly Eagle, the 72-P Type 1, 2 and 3 and the all of 76 Type I and II coins. Are there any other varieties that are typically include in the set (i.e., in the Red Book) that I should include? TIA.

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  • moursundmoursund Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If it were me, I would also want a heavily circulated CuNi example... P01 or FR2. :grin:

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  • USMC_6115USMC_6115 Posts: 3,006 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 11, 2022 3:23PM

    @Raybob15239 said:
    Question for the Ike collectors: I put together a couple of Ike sets for fun. I have one set that is all PCGS certified coins and one set that is raw (self slabbed in Coinworld Holders). In both sets, I have all the 40% silver issues, the 71-D Friendly Eagle, the 72-P Type 1, 2 and 3 and the all of 76 Type I and II coins. Are there any other varieties that are typically include in the set (i.e., in the Red Book) that I should include? TIA.

    There are at least to sub varieties in the 1972 Type 2s that I know of: (March and August die varietys)
    *make sure you have a real Type 2.. I see so many for sale on Ebay on any given day that aren't Type 2. There was a topic here a while back that discussed that. Someone here had one graded by PCGS that was actually a Type 1

    There are some "pegleg" varieties as well.

    Did you check the PCGS Registry Variety Set?

    I'm sure there's more and someone will be around to help...

  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,152 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @moursund said:
    If it were me, I would also want a heavily circulated CuNi example... P01 or FR2. :grin:

    I agree!

  • AMRCAMRC Posts: 4,276 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You know, it is enthusiasts like you that eventually answer these questions. Given you have put together multiple full variety sets means you already know way more than most of us. I say you take a look at a few thousand more of these babies and get back to us?

    MLAeBayNumismatics: "The greatest hobby in the world!"
  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,273 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Dansco sets you 32, you have more.

    I would include at least 1 IKE that has a counterstamp - there are many different made by Mel Wacks and others.

    Also one of those blue plastic things that came with the 1971-1974 silver clad uncirculated.

  • sumduncesumdunce Posts: 1,247 ✭✭✭✭

    Might want to consider adding the business strike silver 1971 S/S. Also, I recall the early Ikes having DDO, DDR, and some DDO/DDR combinations (although PCGS may not recognize any of these varieties).

  • JeffnluJeffnlu Posts: 284 ✭✭✭✭

    My PCGS set has 34 Ikes in it.

  • thebeavthebeav Posts: 3,797 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've always been disappointed in the value of Eisenhower sets. They're such and interesting series, basically 8 years, 32 coins. Clad, silver, business and proof......What's not to like. I remember these sets, around 1978, bringing 400 bucks......What are they 44 years later, half that ? I mean, heck, they're even BIG coins !

  • oldabeintxoldabeintx Posts: 2,016 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @thebeav said:
    I've always been disappointed in the value of Eisenhower sets. They're such and interesting series, basically 8 years, 32 coins. Clad, silver, business and proof......What's not to like. I remember these sets, around 1978, bringing 400 bucks......What are they 44 years later, half that ? I mean, heck, they're even BIG coins !

    Answer IMO: these are not attractive coins and they are not scarce. But I liked Ike and to each his/her own.

  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,694 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 12, 2022 2:41PM

    @oldabeintx said:

    @thebeav said:
    I've always been disappointed in the value of Eisenhower sets. They're such and interesting series, basically 8 years, 32 coins. Clad, silver, business and proof......What's not to like. I remember these sets, around 1978, bringing 400 bucks......What are they 44 years later, half that ? I mean, heck, they're even BIG coins !

    Answer IMO: these are not attractive coins and they are not scarce. But I liked Ike and to each his/her own.

    All of the circulating Ikes are tough in Gem and several like the '71, '73, '73-D, and '76 type I are elusive in nice chBU.

    I would add the '76-S 40% BU from high speed presses to the set though this is not typical for most collectors. Incidentally this coin is almost non-existent even in true Gem.

    Tempus fugit.
  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 8,872 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Good idea to add a PO1 ike - a normal UNC/PROOF set is so easy to put together for a few hundred dollars -

    "When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have several Ike dollars.. raw and in Mint boxes... I should get them out of storage and look them over. Have not seen them in a decade or so.... Might be something interesting. Cheers, RickO

  • SPalladinoSPalladino Posts: 878 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If one were to put raw Ikes into a Dansco album, for example, there are typically 32 labeled spots, and an additional 4 unlabeled spots, for a total of 36 spots. In the 4 extra spots, I put in 1) a 1971S proof peg leg (with the 1971S proof serif R in the labeled spot), 2) a 1971D friendly eagle reverse, 3) a 1972 Type 2 reverse, and 4) a 1972 Type 3 reverse (with the 1972 Type 1 reverse in the labeled spot).

    However OP was not creating albums. Therefore, an Ike collection could be expended beyond the above four additional coins. Areas to consider for additional Ike collection focus:
    1) Designated Ike Varieties (DIVa) (hover over the DIVA Attribution tab in the menu here https://ikegroup.info/?page_id=28](https://www.ikegroup.info/?page_id=28 to see listings),
    2) peg leg Ikes: https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/modern-issues-1964-present/peg-leg-eisenhower-dollars/1594
    3) Ike RPMs and mint mark styles: https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/modern-issues-1964-present/eisenhower-dollar-rpms-mmss/1715
    4) Ike registry sets (of which there are ten different set composition options)
    5) Cherry Picker Ikes (there will be some delisting, and some new additions, whenever the next edition is released)
    6) even more exotic Ikes, like off planchet strikes, wrong planchet strikes, mint errors, 1971S proof type 1 reverse, protoype Ikes, Nixon Presentation box
    7) consider supplementing your Ike collection with Dan Carr fantasy issues (1970 and 1975)
    8) then there is Ike exonumia and counterstamped Ikes (like the Mel Wacks

    Steve Palladino
    - Ike Group member
    - DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
  • fiftysevenerfiftysevener Posts: 909 ✭✭✭✭

    Poor 1 or Fair 2 examples are pocket coins and should get Details grades IMO. Those Ikes wouldn't have circulated long enough to get that worn.

  • Raybob15239Raybob15239 Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭

    Lot's of good ideas here. I have been working a 1971 P down as a pocket piece for about 7 years now, but it still has too much detail. Also too many rim dings to straight grade.

    I have the two sets in large 3 ring binders with eagle slab pages. My raw set includes some extras that don't really belong, like the 1990 Commems and the 2015 Small Dollars as that set is just for fun. Some low-balls and counterstamps there would be a fun add. My other set is all PCGS Certified with the variety attribution on the label. So, I guess the way to do this would be to look at what varieties PCGS certifies and attributes and use that. I don't play the registry game so I am not sure how to check what they do there. Does anyone know what varieties our hosts will list on the label? Thanks!

    Successful B/S/T transactions: As Seller: PascoWA (June 2008); MsMorrisine (April 2009); ECHOES (July 2009) As Buyer: bfjohnson (July 2008); robkool (Dec 2010); itsnotjustme (Dec 2010) TwoSides2aCoin (Dec 2018) PrivateCoin Jan 2019
  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,273 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @fiftysevener said:
    Poor 1 or Fair 2 examples are pocket coins and should get Details grades IMO. Those Ikes wouldn't have circulated long enough to get that worn.

    what about those used in slot machines?

  • Che_GrapesChe_Grapes Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The 71s is also elusive in high grade. It was made for collectors but unlike the proof, it was not handled individually and most have bag marks.

  • SPalladinoSPalladino Posts: 878 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 12, 2022 11:03PM

    @Raybob15239 said:
    Does anyone know what varieties our hosts will list on the label? Thanks!

    Go to the PCGS population report -> Eisenhower dollar -> click on the little + icon next to the dates listed -> PCGS attributable varieties listed.

    Not sure what happens to PCGS attribution of the FS-101 from the 1972S and 1973S proofs once they are delisted from the Cherrypickers Guide.

    Also, be very careful if purchasing an attributed 1971S proof FS-103 and and FS-106 variety - they each have a very high percentage of misattributed coins in those holders (meaning coins attributed as as either a FS-103 or FS-106, but the coin is not).

    Steve Palladino
    - Ike Group member
    - DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
  • SPalladinoSPalladino Posts: 878 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Che_Grapes said:
    The 71s is also elusive in high grade. It was made for collectors but unlike the proof, it was not handled individually and most have bag marks.

    1971S business strike. Yep! Bagged up in San Francisco, then shipped by train to New York state, where they were placed in blue packs.

    Steve Palladino
    - Ike Group member
    - DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
  • Raybob15239Raybob15239 Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭

    Thank you, everyone.

    Successful B/S/T transactions: As Seller: PascoWA (June 2008); MsMorrisine (April 2009); ECHOES (July 2009) As Buyer: bfjohnson (July 2008); robkool (Dec 2010); itsnotjustme (Dec 2010) TwoSides2aCoin (Dec 2018) PrivateCoin Jan 2019
  • fiftysevenerfiftysevener Posts: 909 ✭✭✭✭

    @davewesen said:

    @fiftysevener said:
    Poor 1 or Fair 2 examples are pocket coins and should get Details grades IMO. Those Ikes wouldn't have circulated long enough to get that worn.

    what about those used in slot machines?

    This is a good point. Were these used at gambling venues ?

  • bob48bob48 Posts: 458 ✭✭✭

    Here is my IKE set of 56 Ike's
    I covered all of PCGS coin numbers, meaning No designation on the holder (early holders) or with CAM or DCAM, MM, Type 1 and 2 and 3, MS, Proof. Some of the CAM only coins were very hard to find.

    https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/cameo-proofs/rjps-ike-dollar-ms-proof-cam-dcam-pcgs-coin-number-set/2281

    Bob

    *
  • Raybob15239Raybob15239 Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭

    @bob48 , nice set!

    Successful B/S/T transactions: As Seller: PascoWA (June 2008); MsMorrisine (April 2009); ECHOES (July 2009) As Buyer: bfjohnson (July 2008); robkool (Dec 2010); itsnotjustme (Dec 2010) TwoSides2aCoin (Dec 2018) PrivateCoin Jan 2019
  • bearcavebearcave Posts: 3,996 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @fiftysevener said:
    Poor 1 or Fair 2 examples are pocket coins and should get Details grades IMO. Those Ikes wouldn't have circulated long enough to get that worn.

    I disagree, I had an uncle that gave his nephews a new dollar for Christmas starting in 1971, I put it in my pocket and carried it on the farm and then lost it in 1999. It had worn down worse than the one above.

    Ken
  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,553 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @oldabeintx said:
    Answer IMO: these are not attractive coins and they are not scarce. But I liked Ike and to each his/her own.

    You have obviously never seen a high grade Top Pop Silver or Clad IKE,,,,,,, they truly are a work of art,,,,,,,, at least IMHO,,,,, :)

    GrandAm :)
  • fiftysevenerfiftysevener Posts: 909 ✭✭✭✭

    @bearcave said:

    @fiftysevener said:
    Poor 1 or Fair 2 examples are pocket coins and should get Details grades IMO. Those Ikes wouldn't have circulated long enough to get that worn.

    I disagree, I had an uncle that gave his nephews a new dollar for Christmas starting in 1971, I put it in my pocket and carried it on the farm and then lost it in 1999. It had worn down worse than the one above.

    So it was a pocket coin

  • bearcavebearcave Posts: 3,996 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes it was a pocket coin.
    @fiftysevener

    Ken
  • moursundmoursund Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @fiftysevener said:
    Poor 1 or Fair 2 examples are pocket coins and should get Details grades IMO. Those Ikes wouldn't have circulated long enough to get that worn.

    Yes, but for added challenge and sweat equity, you should make your own, with no abrasives or power tools.

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  • PapiNEPapiNE Posts: 326 ✭✭✭

    I have looked at that moon so often I have a persistant urge to howl...

    USAF veteran 1984-2005

  • moursundmoursund Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PapiNE said:
    I have looked at that moon so often I have a persistant urge to howl...


    Well, the *reverse" of this coin is pretty nice

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