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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 22,517 ✭✭✭✭✭

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  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,651 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 8, 2022 4:20PM

    I have a different example and can tell you that I’ve begged, pleaded, emailed. Called the parent company. No information back. They are very good at responding but not about these. There’s peace dollars and Morgan’s. The rainbow have been $300 plus. They have ignored multiple requests. I’ve bought some nice proof coins (different single,in flips) from them and ask about the mystery packs. Nada 😉

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  • CameonutCameonut Posts: 7,235 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll bite. Exactly what "company" are we talking about?

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  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like they are only certifying that the coin is genuine. Where is the company name?

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  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,651 ✭✭✭✭✭

    TTT

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  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 7,479 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Soooo... someone took 500 AU Morgan Dollars and artificially toned them... wrapped them up in a fancy colorful holder... and is now declaring them to be authentic??

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  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 8,392 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Still can't figure out what the company name is. Unless it's "Limited Edition Rainbow Collection". No address, no phone, no website. Buh bye. Peace Roy

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  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 9,915 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lkenefic said:
    Soooo... someone took 500 AU Morgan Dollars and artificially toned them... wrapped them up in a fancy colorful holder... and is now declaring them to be authentic??

    It sounds like a great art project for your kids. 😈🤣

  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 7,479 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cameonut2011 said:

    @lkenefic said:
    Soooo... someone took 500 AU Morgan Dollars and artificially toned them... wrapped them up in a fancy colorful holder... and is now declaring them to be authentic??

    It sounds like a great art project for your kids. 😈🤣

    Hmmm... get rid of the fancy holders and just paste 500 AT'd Morgan Dollars to a poster board. That'd look pretty cool... lol...

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  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 9,915 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 9, 2022 11:22AM

    @lkenefic said:

    @cameonut2011 said:

    @lkenefic said:
    Soooo... someone took 500 AU Morgan Dollars and artificially toned them... wrapped them up in a fancy colorful holder... and is now declaring them to be authentic??

    It sounds like a great art project for your kids. 😈🤣

    Hmmm... get rid of the fancy holders and just paste 500 AT'd Morgan Dollars to a poster board. That'd look pretty cool... lol...

    The kids today are so much more high tech. You could make it a game. Let some of them create the tye dye holders and teach the others the numismatic hokey pokey…

    You put the cathode there…
    You put the anode here…
    We dump our super mix in and shake all about…
    You do the hokey pokey and you slosh them all around…
    That’s what it’s all about.

    Then you could show the girls how to use an EZ bake oven to cook them to perfection.

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 9,915 ✭✭✭✭✭

    But on a serious note, the holders are interesting. I wonder if the holder is PVC free.

  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 21,756 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cameonut2011 said:
    But on a serious note, the holders are interesting. I wonder if the holder is PVC free.

    They look like the vinyl holders that have plagued so many foreign commemoratives from the 1970s and 1980s. If they don’t have PVC the coins at least usually get super hazy.

    @Jzyskowski1 said:
    I have a different example and can tell you that I’ve begged, pleaded, emailed. Called the parent company. No information back. They are very good at responding but not about these. There’s peace dollars and Morgan’s. The rainbow have been $300 plus. They have ignored multiple requests. I’ve bought some nice proof coins (different single,in flips) from them and ask about the mystery packs. Nada 😉

    At least with @braddick’s coin we know it was authenticated by a professional numismatist. Yours? Could have been anyone, so you just can’t trust it.

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 27,015 ✭✭✭✭✭

    At least there keeping it colorful

  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,651 ✭✭✭✭✭

    But, but, but there’s some sort of initials on the inside cover. Couldn’t they be from a famous numismatist, maybe a mint director, don’t they look like John Mercanti!!! Somebody help me 😂🙀

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  • BStrauss3BStrauss3 Posts: 2,912 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Several hundred of this basic style with different colors and labels have been plaguing fleaBay for a couple of months.

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  • TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,746 ✭✭✭✭✭

    garbage

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 44,841 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Treashunt said:
    garbage

    The proper numismatic term is dreck. ;)

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  • YQQYQQ Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 10, 2022 8:30AM

    Who says there is a company or a TPG??
    I believe that there is no law, norm, or other regulation presently in place in the USA to make this illegal, assuming the coins are authentic. these guys just simply had the idea and courage to do it because they were hoping for a market!
    None of us has to like it or dislike it.
    Anyone can do it. There are many other sellers on the bay selling "rainbow" coins.
    So, what is the actual problem? IF there is one?
    Why is it Garbage and Dreck? is it because some of you do not like it? (personally, I do not care about it)
    These could all be perfect coins!
    Again guys, WHAT is the issue here?

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 44,841 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't think this is a case of it being a third-party grading service. It looks like a mail-order dealership who put his coins in some fancy packaging to make them more marketable.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.

  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 8,392 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 10, 2022 8:37AM

    I know that Gem BU is not a grade per say and it is offered that a "professional" numismatist authenticated the coin. That leads to presenting company and personnel bonafidies to the market being targetted. IMHO.

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  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,040 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Maybe they offer the famous "three levels of service"......

    I'll stick with PCGS thank-you, but when I'm in doubt, I send it to these four reputable companies who guarantee their strict ethical grading standards..............

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  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,651 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The sellers have been on eBay for 10+ years 99.9% positive feedback 25,000 sales.

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  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,179 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Someone just trying to create the illusion of rarity with extremely common coins.

    Collector, occasional seller

  • TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,746 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:

    @Treashunt said:
    garbage

    The proper numismatic term is dreck. ;)

    oops, sorry.

    :)

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    BHNC #203

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 11,081 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @YQQ said:
    Who says there is a company or a TPG??
    I believe that there is no law, norm, or other regulation presently in place in the USA to make this illegal, assuming the coins are authentic. these guys just simply had the idea and courage to do it because they were hoping for a market!
    None of us has to like it or dislike it.
    Anyone can do it. There are many other sellers on the bay selling "rainbow" coins.
    So, what is the actual problem? IF there is one?
    Why is it Garbage and Dreck? is it because some of you do not like it? (personally, I do not care about it)
    These could all be perfect coins!
    Again guys, WHAT is the issue here?

    Actually, they couldn't all be perfect coins. The example posted looks to be far from perfect, as well as AT. But maybe that's just due to the imaging. ;)

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I just don't give an obese rodents derriere... I collect coins, not containers, stickers or signatures. Cheers, RickO

  • JimTylerJimTyler Posts: 2,874 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 11, 2022 6:28AM

    I would feel better if it said ‘Authenticated by a Real Live Professional Numismatist’

  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 7,479 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cameonut2011 said:
    But on a serious note, the holders are interesting. I wonder if the holder is PVC free.

    I think green is the only color lacking in the OP pic...

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  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 9,915 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 11, 2022 10:56AM

    @lkenefic said:

    @cameonut2011 said:
    But on a serious note, the holders are interesting. I wonder if the holder is PVC free.

    I think green is the only color lacking in the OP pic...

    Probably not for long. We could end up with some real “monsters.”

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