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The BIGGEST opportunity for improvement on some coin dealer websites!

ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,113 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited January 8, 2022 7:14AM in U.S. Coin Forum

I visit a lot of coin websites and one of the most frustrating things for me is websites that have a large menu to view coins by denomination or type, but when you click into them the section is empty! After trying two to three sections and coming up empty, I give up on the entire website and go somewhere else.

There are two solutions of course:

  1. Changing the menu: use a dynamic menu and show how many coins are listed in each category, which can be 0. This way, people won't have to spend their time bring up webpages with no coins!
  2. Changing the inventory: ensure there's at least one coin in each category shown.

What do you think? Does this issue affect you? Are there other things that you would like to see improved?

Comments

  • DCWDCW Posts: 7,258 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I can think of two websites of dealers I love to buy from that have stayed dormant for the last 2 years without any additions or subtractions. I'm assuming they gave up on the website, but one in particular still has a piece for sale that I bought and sold 18mos back.

    Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
    "Coin collecting for outcasts..."

  • TheMayorTheMayor Posts: 223 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 8, 2022 10:08AM

    I agree that can be frustrating, though many dealer websites use your first solution. My bigger pet peeves are sites that do not show a picture of the coin in the slab along with the obverse/reverse close up, or sites that do not segregate out sold inventory into a separate section (though I do appreciate that they leave their sold inventory available to peruse - even better if they leave the price as well, though I can understand why many prefer not to do that).

  • HoldTheMayoHoldTheMayo Posts: 130 ✭✭✭

    Software developer here, the first idea about storing the current state (quantity) is pretty easy to do. You just have to add some logic to your app/website that if the coin subcategory (length) is empty, return a value to the user that there are 0 items in that category.

    I think the best way to avoid that frustration though is to know what dealers sell what you like. For example,
    I know about 20 dealers that always have Peace Dollar inventory.

  • winestevenwinesteven Posts: 4,467 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like when a website provides great filters!

    Steve

    A day without fine wine and working on your coin collection is like a day without sunshine!!!

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  • YorkshiremanYorkshireman Posts: 4,556 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Zoins said:
    I visit a lot of coin websites and one of the most frustrating things for me is websites that have a large menu to view coins by denomination or type, but when you click into them the section is empty! After trying two to three sections and coming up empty, I give up on the entire website and go somewhere else.

    That is very frustrating! I hate it.

    Yorkshireman,Obsessed collector of round, metallic pieces of history.Hunting for Latin American colonial portraits plus cool US & British coins.
  • TiborTibor Posts: 3,543 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I HATE going to a website and several coins show SOLD or ON HOLD for several weeks. Can the dealer be so busy that they can't update a page or two more frequently?

  • PedzolaPedzola Posts: 1,027 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My #1 Pet Peeve is dealers who don't have websites or don't have live inventory on their websites.

    Walking around local shows, only a small fraction of dealers have any sort of web presence.

  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,264 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 9, 2022 7:33AM

    Don't bother me. I'll find what I want. I mean it doesn't bother me who's site sucks more than mine or who's is better.

  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 9,966 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TheMayor said:
    I agree that can be frustrating, though many dealer websites use your first solution. My bigger pet peeves are sites that do not show a picture of the coin in the slab along with the obverse/reverse close up, or sites that do not segregate out sold inventory into a separate section (though I do appreciate that they leave their sold inventory available to peruse - even better if they leave the price as well, though I can understand why many prefer not to do that).

    I agree, I immediately ignore sites that only show one side of the coin. Takes way too long to ask for opposite photo. If a site only shows the holder obv/rev with good quality photos, that does not concern me as I enlarge them anyway if quality allows.
    Jim


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  • SwampboySwampboy Posts: 12,984 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Tibor said:
    I HATE going to a website and several coins show SOLD or ON HOLD for several weeks. Can the dealer be so busy that they can't update a page or two more frequently?

    The big red SOLD next to coins (and many of them) that remains for months keeps me from browsing the site site of a dealer I actually enjoy dealing with. I just find browsing his inventory online to be a bit of a PITA.

    "Inspiration exists, but it has to find you working" Pablo Picasso

  • 3stars3stars Posts: 2,285 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Prices. Some dealer websites feel like museums.

    Previous transactions: Wondercoin, goldman86, dmarks, Type2
  • ElmerFusterpuckElmerFusterpuck Posts: 4,722 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If I see a "price on request" on a fairly common coin, I usually just high tail it out of there.

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,113 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ElmerFusterpuck said:
    If I see a "price on request" on a fairly common coin, I usually just high tail it out of there.

    Agreed. I think that only works for major rarities.

  • Herb_THerb_T Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I just want the phone number at the top header….I don’t like having to hunt! There are some of the big names that are guilty of hiding their phone numbers……

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 8,502 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They should come up to speed with the imaging and data organization similar to PCGS coin facts; by far the best such site out there.

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,113 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Herb_T said:
    I just want the phone number at the top header….I don’t like having to hunt! There are some of the big names that are guilty of hiding their phone numbers……

    Some sites, like Amazon, don't want you calling them ;)

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I keep my website up to date. You can sort my denomination.

    Here is and could be a major problem for EARLY adaptors of the internet and built a website years ago.

    My website works fine but from an older template and hosting service.

    I would love to redo my website and when thinking about my 700 coins with a at least 4 photos each, plus descriptions would take quite bit of time. Call it lazy or the easy way out. Basically, my website works and I would like to redo it, but it is a matter of time. Maybe I should hire someone.

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,113 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:
    I keep my website up to date. You can sort my denomination.

    Here is and could be a major problem for EARLY adaptors of the internet and built a website years ago.

    My website works fine but from an older template and hosting service.

    I would love to redo my website and when thinking about my 700 coins with a at least 4 photos each, plus descriptions would take quite bit of time. Call it lazy or the easy way out. Basically, my website works and I would like to redo it, but it is a matter of time. Maybe I should hire someone.

    How important is your website? How much business do you get off your website vs. say eBay?

    I say this as someone who runs across your coins on eBay :)

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Zoins said:

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:
    I keep my website up to date. You can sort my denomination.

    Here is and could be a major problem for EARLY adaptors of the internet and built a website years ago.

    My website works fine but from an older template and hosting service.

    I would love to redo my website and when thinking about my 700 coins with a at least 4 photos each, plus descriptions would take quite bit of time. Call it lazy or the easy way out. Basically, my website works and I would like to redo it, but it is a matter of time. Maybe I should hire someone.

    How important is your website? How much business do you get off your website vs. say eBay?

    I say this as someone who runs across your coins on eBay :)

    I do do more business on Ebay than my website for sure.

    Things I would want to change about my website ....

    1) Much larger or enlargeable photos

    2) An error coin education section

    3) Perhaps a blog

  • ByersByers Posts: 1,564 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Chris- great ideas to expand your website and business!

    mikebyers.com Dealer in Major Mint Errors, Die Trials & Patterns - Author of NLG Best World Coin Book World's Greatest Mint Errors - Publisher & Editor of minterrornews.com.
  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Byers said:
    Chris- great ideas to expand your website and business!

    You already know how busy and distracted I am ;)

    And yes I agree <3

  • ScarsdaleCoinScarsdaleCoin Posts: 5,220 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Easier said then done... We agree on the improvements but last year we spent 4 months with a major webdesigner who thought it would be a piece of cake.. after 4 months we scraped them and went back to our old system... it takes a lot of time and energy to keep a website up to date if you are an active dealer... a vest dealer with 20 or 30 coins can easily do it... our firm can sell and buy 100 -250 coins at one show... Im waiting for a good programmer to really develop a scan based system that truly works...

    Jon Lerner - Scarsdale Coin - www.CoinHelp.com

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