1941 Half - No/Very Weak Designer Initials. Any premium?

pcgs69

Got this Walking Liberty Half and the designer initials on the back are missing, and at some angles, there is a very faint outline of it. Is there any premium for it?

Also, would you grade it as a MS63? Thank you for any help.

pcgs69

Based on zero responses, I'll assume there's no premium.

ricko

Looks like a 63... and I do not think it will have a premium. Cheers, RickO

jmlanzaf

Probably a grease-filled die, so probably not much premium. Although you never know.

Treashunt

hmmm..

I think AU+ possibly a 58, I think I can see a bit of wear there.

I don't see the designers initials at all.

Value? No clue

fiftysevener

Most proof 1941 halves have designer initials partially or completely missing even though they are fully struck. This was caused by improper or overzealous die polishing. Circulation strikes used dies that were not polished often if at all. Grease die theory sounds plausible to me as well.

ThreeCentSilverFL

Here’s my ‘44 D. As @fiftysevener said, the initials were polished off the die and on this variety they were Hand Re-Engraved or punched in to the die to approximate the AW.

jesbroken

@ThreeCentSilverFL

I noticed on my 1941 PDF Walker set, all the initials appear alike except the Philadelphia, which appears to be reengraved(which I didn't even know this was done) but is an MS and not a proof. Any ideas about the difference?
Thanks,
JIm

ThreeCentSilverFL

@jesbroken if your AW initials are incuse, that’s normal and they are shallow due to over polishing the die.

The re-engraved AW on the 1944-D was actually engraved into the die after the original initials were polished off. Therefore, the AW is raised on the ‘44-D coin.

jesbroken

@ThreeCentSilverFL said:
@jesbroken if your AW initials are incuse, that’s normal and they are shallow due to over polishing the die.

The re-engraved AW on the 1944-D was actually engraved into the die after the original initials were polished off. Therefore, the AW is raised on the ‘44-D coin.

How would a person photograph the coins in a holder to determine if incuse or relief? I can hold the coin in a holder to photo the coin from any angle, but would that actually show the needed aspect?
Jim

ThreeCentSilverFL

@jesbroken The light source in this photo is from about 11:00 if that helps you see the raised re-engraved AW.