Ungraded 1883-CC GSA sells for $2,336.00 at eBay auction today.
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Eye-popping result. Congrats to the seller.
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Wow. I thought the GSA market had slowed a bit (mainly because of the earlier run-up a year or so ago, but this is pretty insane for something that isn't that attractive. But what do I know????
The coin no doubt, sold for the color and the price realized says virtually nothing about the overall GSA market.
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Wow Looks like it hurts. That deep purple black eye look.
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There was a fellow who came into our local(and only) coin shop with a handful of ungraded GSA's with similar colors, brown, green and reddish. Not very attractive to my way of thinking. No one bought them, at least to my knowledge. No idea where the man was from.
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This'll have fantastic color in hand, I'm sure. The sellers pics are uh, not great. Still think it was very strong money.
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Yes congrats hope everyone is happy with the sale
It would be nice to think that the buyer had an opportunity to see the coin inhand, but probably not.
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I hope that it looks better in hand!
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Is that a stain on the obverse below the bust and on the black plastic? This type of thing may or may not be a caveat in that contaminants may influence toning.....
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Wow, this is a crazy price. Ebay can get crazy prices.
A 1921 ungraded peace dollar sold recently for over 6,500 dollars
And I got one from this seller once (paid MUCH less but still a lot) and it came back cleaned and won’t even grade. Be careful out there!!
I agree the price definitely is based on the color.
While the sale may not be representative of the white (Ricko approved) GSA market, it may say something about the toned GSA market
I've seen hookers on Tropicana that look better than that coin... but they're not $2300
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Time to put the GSA slabs inside a box with some mashed boiled eggs and see if there is any toning that would happen.
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I don't know about that coloration.
Very tempting to put a toned GSA up right now.
I’ve seen a lot of GSA toners, and on a percentage basis, very few compare to the color that one (likely) displays.
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OK but I cannot get a read on if that is too dark or not. On a positive note it shows very few marks.
I am concerned that the toning was done artificially and that it may not grade as a result
It doesn’t look the least bit questionable to me.
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I don't like the residue just below it IN the packaging. IMO the impossible task is to prove it is NOT AT. The other issue is that these holders can indeed be opened/closed at will without being detected.
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First, what residue? In the obverse closeup photo? That looks like a shadow and it's not present in the photo showing the whole holder.
Second, this is pretty much textbook bag toning. Unless something is drastically different in hand, it should have no problem grading at PCGS or NGC.
That’s a lot of money for a very ugly coin. The toning is definitely eating into the surface and looks like it’s heading down hill. To each his own 😉
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Too dark for my taste. This is one that I have that I find to be too dark, but also toned on the wrong side.
Airplane nut:
First - there certainly was a tone of dismissive aggression in that response! Perhaps none of us including you is all-seeing, and I most certainly was not born yesterday & likely have as much or more experience in the numismatic field as you.
Secondly, that does NOT appear to be a shadow to me and the contour is all wrong for that. The first photo is to far away with too much in the field of view to confirm or deny this.
Thirdly, the black of the holder in this first whole photo is "washed out" (even though we usually reserve this term for white) by the shade in that the nuances of relative blackness are lost. As you know this can happen in photography.
Fourth, although this could be bag toning, and I never ruled that out, you can not confirm that to be the source of oxidation. You also can not confirm the actual colors, and that these have not been altered.
Perhaps some seasonal charity on your part just might be in order overall and that additional photos might serve better to confirm whether this is residue of some kind or a shadow (BTW, what is the source of shadow if you are so certain?). These photos are not "in hand", and as perhaps you are aware (or not) photographs do not always represent the actual visual representation of a coin. Or do all your coins appear exactly as seen in glamour shots such as the True Views.
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That is one ugly silver dollar.
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Coins got a lotta haters. Can't wait to see which one of the big boys bought it when they post pics on Instagram.
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I didn’t read Jeremy’s post as having a tone of “dismissive aggression” or one with claims of being “all-seeing”. But admittedly, perhaps that’s because the coin’s color looks blatantly original to me.
Of course, he, I or others can’t confirm or prove the source of the oxidation or the unaltered nature of the colors. All any of us have to go by are the photos. And they leave me with no reasonable doubt about the originality of the toning. While I realize that different people tend to have different opinions, I’m still surprised that this particular coin is being questioned.
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No there wasn't. Trust me, if I meant for there to be, it would be there, and I'd bet you'd notice. By all means, teach me, oh experienced master!
Here is a photo of my dog:
Do you see his shadow? It's contoured and not straight because he--a dog--is contoured, and not straight. Whatever is blocking the light will dictate the contour of a shadow. I can't see what's blocking the light any better than you can, but I can draw from my nearly two decades of coin photography experience to say that sometimes weird shadows come along, especially with kludgey lighting. In fact, if you look at the photo really closely, you can see what appears to be a horizontal black object and two tan, rounded ones--perfectly consistent with two fingers holding a horizontal cell phone. So maybe it's a reflection and not a shadow. Same difference. It certainly explains why it's not on the photo showing everything.
So you're telling me that an obvious spill of multiple colors (some NOT black) is COMPLETELY lost in the first photo because the black is washed out... even though the black shade is quite clearly not full black but a very deep shade of grey? Hogwash.
I have to admit I have absolutely no retort for this. Shy of having 24/7 video surveillance of this coin from the time it was ejected from the die at the Carson City Mint until this very day, we have no way to confirm what caused those colors. In fact, we really can't confirm that any colors on any coins anywhere are what anyone says they are. We just DON'T KNOW! If only we could look to thousands of other examples to build a case that so heavily leads us to determine the scenario that is so exceedingly likely relative to the others. Between the color progression, the patterning and shape of the colors, the colors themselves, the variability of color within LIBERTY, the pull-away effect... that's how bag-toned coins tone. But you're right, it may have been stuck in a potato and cooked in the oven for an hour on 450. We just can't say for sure.
Oh, and I've taken a few hundred thousand photos of coins. I'm really good at reading images. Am I perfect? No. Can I say with pretty good confidence that even if the exact hues are a bit off I know how this coin is going to look? Yeah, I can.
Seasonal charity, you say? Was what I sent off to some dear organizations last week not enough? And photos don't always represent how the coin looks? Oh my! Say it ain't so! My life as a professional photographer is A LIE! See above. Just because an image isn't perfect doesn't mean it can't be interpreted. And look at my past posts. I'll routinely note when an image has some flaw causing me to question how the coin looks, lest I say something based on an image when I myself am unsure. But that's not the case here. I know how this photo was taken, and yes, I'm very, very confident I know how the coin looks. I have no doubt it's natural bag toning.
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The more I look at the price realized and the coloration I cannot understand how a dark coin like that can be worth that much. Somebody took a flyer IMO.
The photo lacks luster. Whether the coin is also lacking luster is challenging to tell.
If there is any pop whatsoever, the buyer got a decent to excellent deal- primarily when this one grades out with PCGS as a possible GEM.
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I'd never send a GSA to PCGS. Otherwise, we'll see. If it's a 65, it's money, assuming the color looks how I think it will. If it's 64, they paid about market, probably. Maybe a shade under. Anything less and it's a $ loser imho.
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I see a coin like that and it makes me think that @ricko has the right idea.
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I like CC Morgan's, and have quite a few in GSA holders. That tarnish looks NT to me, and occurred prior to encapsulation. It may have continued to some extent after enclosed... can not say that with any degree of certainty. The tarnish is not attractive to me (Surprise, surprise), but for those who appreciate that appearance, it is likely worth the expenditure. Cheers, RickO
That toning is way too dark for my taste. Pass.
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I thought the GSA put all toned CC's in slabs without the word 'Uncirculated' on it, like this holder, even though they were uncirculated. If confirmed, then believe it is NT and from original bag toning. Would need to see in hand to determine eye appeal.
I have no doubt the toning is original. As further evidence, it's in a "Silver Dollar" holder, not an uncirculated holder. Looks legit to me, just too dark.
I guess it takes all kinds. From photo an ugly badly tarnished coin in my view. Hope looks better in hand.
Yes , but UGLY is to the core.
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Even if the coin has more luster than is apparent in the photos, I'm still not a fan of that type of thick, crusty toning or those particular colors. I understand that a lot of people think it's awesome, hence the realized price.
I do not see awesome in that coin in any way.