81 T BBCE Vending - RIPPING W/ PICS
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1/2 my clan has Covid, expecting mediocre football games today. So….one of my few remaining “ROI be-dammed” unopened boxes is calling.
Encouragement needed or talk me off the ledge! LOL!
Steve
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Don’t do it!!! Be strong!
Live long, and prosper.
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Bosox1976
Absolutely. I was just talking to MisterTim, and he was saying there are literally THOUSANDS of PSA 10 Fernando’s out there waiting to be submitted.
I vote go for it for the price. Would be a fun rip with less monetary stress. With a potential nice hit.
Yup, since they printed WAY over ONE MILLION of Fernando's card that year, odds are there's at least 1,000 PSA 9's still out there.
Yes. I Ripped a 81 FB vending and released 2 Montana Rookies. Go for it.
Here's a comforting thought: in 1981 the U.S. population was about 230 million and in 2021 it's about 330 million, so today there are about 100 million more people with the potential to want to own one of those 1 million Valenzuela cards than there were back then. As one who has far too many junk wax cards, I consider this a comforting thought.
That's a great box!. Would be hesitant to open though. I've had few early 80's vending boxes that I opened and although pulled some rookie and HOF cards, most had bent corners or were off center. Would suggest the box itself has more "market" value long term if unopened as well as more "personal" value with the possibility of one or two Fernando's in it.
Damnit…. You guys are making me itch…
Rofles….now that you def can’t open.
I once bought a 1976 Topps vending box for $100 (long time ago) and every card was off center 90/10 top to bottom. They were razor sharp, but it annoyed the heck out of me that every single card was miscut that way. Something to consider before you open any vintage vending box.
YES.. Ty, I needed to read that! lol
Do NOT open.
I ripped a couple modern boxes with my young kids (5&8). We had a blast.
Also put an 87D to the side for them to rip as well. Looking for Mac, mattingly, Bo, bonds, Maddux and Larkin.
Been a lot of fun
Point is, don’t expect a return outside of entertainment.
Life is short, have fun!
Signed,
80s Unopened Degenerate.
What sport is the box?
I recently opened a 1973 Topps Football Vending. I was not entirely sure if the box had been compromised so I decided to see what was in it. Luckily (or unluckily), the box was not touched and wielded about 70 Hall of Fame cards. I think the only two stars I did not get were Stabler and Franco. The centering was hit and miss as expected but all the cards were razor sharp.
Baseball.
Only thing holding me back is I already have 50+ 81T cards set aside for grading. Unless a $10 sub returns, will never have them graded. So, do I want to add to that long pile of raw 81 T cards?. Lol.
After re reading your original post, I am tempted to say "RIP IT" I am sure it would be a blast, but if you already have a bunch to send in, I wonder if you won't end up regretting it.
Also depends on how much unopened you have. If you have more of this year then go for it. Don't expect a lot of well centered cards though.
You would be able to put together some nice raw sets though, if you enjoy that.
Hey Art,
Did you get a decent Unitas? If so I'd be interested. Just shoot me a PM.
thanks
HOF SIGNED FOOTBALL RCS
Rip it, why not? Surprised so many posters want to keep it intact, this a vending box or 81 Topps, sure it has value but its not irreplaceable by any means. Live a little.
I am gonna rip it. Just stinks there isn’t anything terribly exciting to look for.
Yeah yeah, I know there are cool cards, but you all know what I mean.
But will be fun. More later.
NO unless you're a Baines fan.
Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!
Ignore list -Basebal21
Don’t sub much, but pulled a psa 10 ‘81 Henderson from
BBCE vending a few years ago.
Let ‘er rip!
Well, here goes nothing!
Decent start. Some of the stacks are stuck together, but they come apart pretty easily. Ozzie and Fisk are nice. Ryan has ding top left. Raines bottom left corner is touched.
Nice to see them tho.
Super nice Seaver. Fernando, less so. The 10 chase continues lol
@Ahmanfan said:
I did get one but am keeping it for the set I put together from the vending box.
Fantastic start Balco!
Best of the rest….oh well that was fun!
Baines and Reggie. Neither any good.
Rickey and Schmidt had shark bites.
Looks like 17 candidates for PSA 10 based on the centered “best” you posted. That is pretty solid for early 80s Topps vending. Nice to see a few stars in that mix in Murray, Seaver and Fisk. Thanks for sharing the rip!
Very nice!
I absolutely love the 81 set and have built one over the last decade+. Finally finished in all 9 or 10s (#4 on registry) and love seeing the chase for these super challenging cards in high grade. I've been lucky enough to rip wax and racks (years back) and also have a cut case from each sheet. So cool to see these come out of vending!!!
Quick question, does anyone know exactly what happens when there is a, for lack of better term, reverse fish eye on a card? You can see an example of this on the Nolan Ryan posted, along the top border in the blue/white. I have this on some 81s (along with other weird print issues....Mike Heath, Don Aase, Lynn McGlothen, Dennis Lamp....cards also missing top borders....usually top row of double-printed cards). The reverse fish eye seems to occur on 81s that are a bit more "grey" or darker than others. Just curious if anyone had any input on this.
Carlton Fisk is also interesting as it has a white dot on the Red Sox hat below the E. I have only come across one Fisk that does not have that white dot (it's a PSA 9)....I also have a 10 that has the white dot. Along the same lines, Gary Carter always has a blue dot on the left side border. I haven't come across one that does not have it.
I don't post on here often but would love to talk 81s if anyone has more knowledge to add on this set. Thanks!
Me submitting 17 cards typically gets back the below results:
PSA 9 = 2
PSA 8 = 8
PSA 7 = 5
PSA 5 = 1
Min Size = 1
I can’t be alone??!!
@jayeaton I've bought a few of your extras over time, as I'm building this set myself, at #6 on the registry, and I know how tough this set is. I've been working on it 9+ years, and have made it to 86+%. I do have a Skaggs and an Adams in an 8 as placeholders (not sure if/when I'll upgrade those toughies), but everything else is currently 9s or 10s.
I also have been fortunate to open a great quantity of 81s, but nothing recently. I just did a quick look at my stacks of Carters and Fisks, and every one has the print dot that you mentioned, including both of my 9s. I've also noticed the "reverse fisheyes" before, and not just on 81s.
By the way, the OP's Baines is the "eyelash" variation. Some of those were printed with that black line near the bottom right border. Neither version, with or without, seems much more common than the other to me, but I haven't really done a legitimate survey.
Are you kidding? It seems that the Scioscia rookie, if a 10, would be the most exciting card of the entire decade.
Thanks for sharing the results, Steve! Some very sharp cards there!
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
If the category is 1981 Topps Baseball and I need to use a life line I'm for sure ringing @jayeaton
Great thread Steve. That was fun!
mark
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
As always, a pleasure sifting through a balco (Steve) rip thread!
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Nice cards. I like the Fisk, Ozzie and Seaver. What’s the issue with the Baines?
Thanks,
David (LD_Ferg)
1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
Thx guys.
Dan I still have 1 78 cello box left….
Re Baines. Both left side corners are touched.
Live vending fresh 80s cards, some really sharp examples there that really pop. I’ve opened very little 81 and have no connection to the set, but what little I have opened have been in horrendous shape.
Thanks for sharing!
countdouglas, I didn't know about the Baines! Very cool, I'll have to look for that. I know Harry Spillman has that in the baseball/topps logo part. Seems to be close to 50-50 split on which version for him.
Here's the Fisk that I was referencing. The 9 is the only one I've ever seen without the white dot.
Don Aase (smudge on hat) and Lynn McGlothen (blue smudge in sky)
Mike Heath with a line running through the upper right seems to be somewhat common. What I found interesting is I have a "Rediscover Topps" that they inserted in packs years later. You can see the slight beginning of that line taking shape. Made me think of the 1990 thread on here with potentially some getting onto the printing plates.
You know how when you were a kid, and you were putting cards in the album pages? You know that feeling you would get when you would finally get enough of your favorite player to fill up all 9 slots with the same card? And then the look on your friend's face when he's flipping through the pages of YOUR album and he gets to that page with all 9 slots filled?
I did that with an entire set of 1981 Topps! Starting with card #1 and going all the way through to #726, even checklists! Yes, I have a crap-ton of 81s!
@jayeaton has me going through those albums, and the 2 monster boxes I still have of extras, in order. I have a handful of raw sets around here somewhere in one of the closets that I haven't looked at yet. I've always been picky with my cards, ESPECIALLY as a novice collector. Wax or gum stains and noticeable PD or heavily miscut...into the trash immediately! If I had any or many of the flawed cards Jay posted above, they likely didn't make it out of my childhood to still be in my collection. I often wonder if I had any 82 blackless in my hands? If I did, then no doubt I would have almost immediately trashed them for being defective and not having the autograph. Later in life, I learned to appreciate the cards for what they were, and while I rarely throw cards away now, they do often get donated to my LCS or other collectors. I have too many cards to keep everything, so I mostly just keep the cream, even in my commons. Some of the ones in the 9 pocket pages had to be given more leeway in order to complete the project, though.
Anyway, I looked up the Baines cards that I still have. 9 have the "eyelash", and 6 do not. Including the 9 in the album pages, I had roughly 15-20 of all of the examples of players that Jay shows above. All of the Spilman have the line in the Topps logo. I don't have any of the Lamp or Aase with the blob imperfection. I only had one Heath with the beginnings of the white line - similar to the Rediscover Topps card shown. And only one McGlothen with just the faint beginnings of the smudge.
Wow count! You weren't whistling Dixie
Thanks for all the great info
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Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Count, that’s some awesome OCD.
Imagine the Sesame Street Count…
1 Baines, ah ah ah. 2 Baines, ah ah ah. You would need entire series of shows to count your 81’s!!
Love it.
Loved picking these up from BBCE (not FASC) for $35 each whenever he had them. What do they go for now? $100? $200?
$389 was the last price I saw them listed for.