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Ladyluck6199Ladyluck6199 Posts: 33 ✭✭
edited December 20, 2021 1:51AM in U.S. Coin Forum

I’ve searched and searched, pondered and stared at this coin for far too long…. Need a second opinion. Not going to reveal the year… but can unequivocally state that this is the only one of its kind known across the internet.



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  • Ladyluck6199Ladyluck6199 Posts: 33 ✭✭
    edited December 20, 2021 1:52AM

    Gunna send it on in to PCGS and see what they grade it as. It is clearly DDR (3rd image: two clear points on the L) but I wonder if it’s TDR. If it gets TDR designation I hit the jackpot.

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  • yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 4,857 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 20, 2021 1:32AM

    Most likely shelf doubling (aka "mechanical doubling") on the bottom of DOLLAR and nearby stars,
    and same on the tops of ICA and nearby stars.
    Read all about it here:
    http://doubleddie.com/144822.html
    I don't see the two clear points on the L that you describe in the 4th photo,
    but it is encouraging that you do know what to look for.
    I see typical flat shelf-like doubling.

    Even though it is often dismissed as "not valuable", it's still fun to find things like this.
    Thanks for sharing with your good photos.

    You can also look up known Kennedy DDRs at
    http://doubleddie.com/919455.html

  • TonerGuyTonerGuy Posts: 590 ✭✭✭

    Looks like mechanical doubling to me as well...

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes, it is machine doubling (at least in the pictures you have posted). Cheers, RickO

  • OldhoopsterOldhoopster Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not seeing any notching/split serifs, rounding, or thickening of the devices. Those are all characteristics of die doubling. The flat appearance is indicative of mechanical doubling

    You can send it in for variety attribution, but the major TPGs will only attribute varieties in the Cherry Pickers Guide or other references https://www.pcgs.com/varietyfaq

    I would recommend saving your money and not send it in, especially since the consensus says it's non-value added MD

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  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Machine, mechanical or shelf doubling. Call it what you like. But it is not from a doubled die. And PCGS will make no mention of it.

    Still, always fun to see and rather cool.
    Lance.

  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,110 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Save your money, study up on md, that being machine or mechanical doubling, you'll thank us later. Peace Roy

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  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,248 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It’s machine doubling, but kudos on giving us high quality, useful images instead of the normal “I found a doubled die” threads with no images or images taken from outer space of a coin that’s spent four years being run over in a Walmart parking lot.

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  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,089 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Read this article by JT Stanton about doubled dies vs. machine/mechanical/strike doubling.

    http://conecaonline.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/StrikeDoublingFlyer-1.pdf

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,703 ✭✭✭✭✭

    coneca guys are fantastic with this question. read that

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  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like machine doubling.

  • Uugh really? Cause I looked and looked and sure as shit that is a double L…. I’m not making it up. I’m gunna send it in. I think it’s a ddr with machine doubling or perhaps even a TDR. Too many doubled die similarities as opposed to not for me. But again you guys are great and thanks for your input! Good on ya!

  • yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 4,857 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 24, 2021 1:01AM


    If it was true separated tips on the second L, shouldn't the first L also have separated tips?
    A small contact mark could create that little notch in the second L tip.

    You are free to send it in for attribution, but even it it was a real DDR or TDR,
    I think you would lose money in the process, because I don't think a DDR or TDR
    without good separation will sell for much.
    On ebay, in November two 1967 PCGS PR-67 DDRs were sold.
    One for $61 and one for $125.
    If $80 was paid to grade each one, money was lost on the first one....

  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 16,640 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here's what you wanna see!


    Good Luck
    :)

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  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,399 ✭✭✭✭✭

    varietyvista will also give you reported DDs for the series

    varietyvista.com/12%20Kennedy%20Halves/DDR%20Listings.htm

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