09SVDB Opinions are in, Help report these (another one added)
MarkW63
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Lately I've been posting and directing attention to what faults I see in the coin, but starting out with this one I don't what to plant seeds to steer others in a certain direction.
Opinions Please!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/144330819827
"I Prefer Dangerous Freedom Over Peaceful Slavery"
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The zero in the date appears to be a higher relief than the rest of the numbers, like it was pressed deeper in the die.
The N in United appears to be the deep cut N.
For strike it looks 64/65 but I cannot tell enough from a blurry b/w pic. Color might add a point or even reveal a loss.
Good point!
"I Prefer Dangerous Freedom Over Peaceful Slavery"
Thomas Jefferson!
Okay, I searched through a bunch of listings to find a genuine PCGS (reverse image of) graded 09SVDB that was in at lest as good of condition as the coin in question that gives us a good view of the proper font used the "N" in UNITED.
So, heres a good image I found.
EDITED!
I worked on resizing this image so its more in relation to the image size of the coin in OP, when comparing image like this if I can the closer to the same size helps.
Here is the image of the reverse of the PCGS graded sample!!!
This is the image of the coin in question (one in the OP)
"I Prefer Dangerous Freedom Over Peaceful Slavery"
Thomas Jefferson!
Whole thing fake
The "0" in 1909 stood out to me... I'm thinking fake. I can't see the period placement in VDB on the reverse...
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VDB looks off, B line doesn't appear to me to be slanted nor does the dot appear to me to be in the correct position.
Jim
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Message sent to seller.
OP image not clear enough for me to have an opinion about authenticity.
Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.-Albert Einstein
The seller seems to think this is a genuine coin.
More:
Lower lip wrong
Lower back of hair near neck is wrong
More:
Nose is too pointed
Add the eye and his nose looks wrong too. "STATES" on reverse is off - the letters should be uniform not some skinny, some thicker. And the deep cut N is a dead give a way as previously stated
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
Like @Coinscratch said "it looks 64/65"
I agree.
I think if it were mine and genuine I would be sending that in quick.
I know I would take a better photo and price it higher.
The center bar of the B doesn't appear slanted and is in the wrong position as @jesbroken mentioned.
Lots of other little details are off as @MsMorrisine & @Steven59 have mentioned.
The zero in the date and the N of United are off.
It gets back to "one and you're done" there is enough wrong with this that I feel comfortable reporting it and I have done that.
Here is the listing if others want to report.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/144330819827
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?sid=arlingtoncoins2014&isRefine=true&_sop=10
The C in Cent has what looks like a serif on top and machine doubling on the bottom.
I call it fake.... Points mentioned above.... the B, the N... Cheers, RickO
At first looked like a steel cent in the photo at top of post...
One more while we are at it..... might as well kill 2 birds with one stone.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/324951643183
Whole thing counterfeit
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?sid=ferchak48&isRefine=true&_sop=10
Yeah, and the seller sold another counterfeit back in September.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/324797180885?hash=item4b9f6babd5:g:R3UAAOSwtiJhSNd3&nma=true&si=xnHEg5yYHywyMlCtMkWBLDHrBjY%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Bummer, more fake news
I'm surprised this one is still listing!
It has the wrong style designers initials for SURE!
I know in total how many reports are in on this one, but I do know its been reported a couple of times.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/324951643183?hash=item4ba8a0942f:g:JlgAAOSwSplhwMbP
"I Prefer Dangerous Freedom Over Peaceful Slavery"
Thomas Jefferson!
One removed but one still active, please help to report.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/144330819827
WoW! I just checked on this one and its still active!
We may need to call in some backup people to report it!!
"I Prefer Dangerous Freedom Over Peaceful Slavery"
Thomas Jefferson!