Why is it so hard for college coaches to succeed in the NFL?
doubledragon
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In your opinion, what makes it so difficult for successful college coaches to succeed in the NFL?
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Bobby Petrino, that went well!
And of course Steve Spurrier.
Nick Saban couldn't cut it either.
So many reasons. Completely different cultures, environments, schedules, rules, labor issues, one has a union, one is college kids the other is millionaires. The list is endless.
The successful franchises in the NFL hire the best coaching staffs, and it starts with the head coach. College coaches need some smarts, but they don't always come up against the best.
One person who comes to mind is Chip Kelly. He was a big deal in college with his hurry-up offense. He brought to the Philadelphia Eagles, and it worked for a while. The problems were that the other coaches figured out had to beat it, and Kelly was slow to change. Like a one trip pony, he kept running game after game and kept losing.
The standard pattern was that the offense would go three and out time after time. The defense, which was not Kelly's strong suit, played heroically, but after they were on the field for an extended time, they got worn down. The floodgates opened and the Eagles lost game after game. Kelly finally got canned and went to San Francisco where he failed again.
Kelly had some imagination, but not enough to be successful in the NFL.
Jim Harbaugh is one of the rare exceptions. He was 44-19-1 and one play away from winning a Super Bowl. Most suck
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Jimmy Johnson fared well.
True dat
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He'd have been fine if he'd gotten Drew Brees instead of Culpepper.
It's a couple of things:
1) college guys pick players
2) The really successful ones are operating at a big talent advantage in nearly every game. That NEVER happens in the NFL. So it comes down to schemes and adjustments that they're not good at.
Pete Carroll was an exception as well.
many, if not all, Head Coaches do start in College, they just don't make the leap from HC to HC. I believe that the NFL is vastly superior and more complicated than the NCAA on every level, though Colleges now mimic the NFL in many ways
Lou Holtz
I think its far more difficult to coach in the NFL in just about every aspect. College is like AAA compared to the NFL.
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S> > Jimmy Johnson fared well.
Heck, Jimmy won two Super Bowls and spoon fed another to Barry Switzer. LOL
Jimmy didn't exactly dominate in Miami where he didn't have a Minnesota Vikings waiting to be fleeced.
Are you actually trying to refute a claim that Johnson was a success in the NFL? LOL 4 points:
Look, I can’t stand Jimmy Johnson but I will give credit where credit is due. I grew up 20 minutes from Norman and we all hate him. But, to allude that he was not a success in the NFL is a loser’s argument. I love Barry Switzer but I know his greatest accomplishment in the NFL was to not eff things up.
This thread doesn't apply to Harbaugh because he isn't a successful college coach.
Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!
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Pete Carroll failed in New England, and we could not wait to push him out. After Bill Parsells build up the team, it only got worse under Carroll. Carroll did well on the college level before he came back in Seattle.
11-win seasons with three different schools.
No, I'm not.
Just trying to tamp down the hype just a bit. He went to Miami, did nothing even close to what he did in Dallas and won fewer games in his four years there than the guy before him (Shula, who many thought was "past it") or after him (Wannstedt) did in their four years. And his tenure ended with the worst playoff loss in modern NFL history.
Jimmy Johnson was a great coach - in Dallas. He was not great in Miami.
zero national championships. 1-5 vs Ohio state. Losing record against Mich State. Losing bowl record.
Not successful.
Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!
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I would have made a donation to the U. of M. if it was used to retain any of their previous coaches. Harbaugh worries me. OSU had better be prepared every year.
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Ralph
It's silly to say a guy with an Orange Bowl win and 7 10-win seasons is "not successful".
Even after this year, many UM fans still want him fired. Look at how many 10 win seasons John Cooper had, yet most OSU fans wanted him gone. Cooper had a better record than Harbaugh.
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You are of course correct. He was a successful college at San Diego and Stanford where he rebuilt those programs. That's how he got the 49ers job down the street. Stanford has a enrollment of 17.000 and has one of the strictest admission standards. You don't get all the best athletes. Folks that root for football factory institutions seem to forget that. From there he had a 44-19-1 record in the NFL. Michigan obviously that came after. Happy Holiday's Tabe
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Proving only that OSU doesn't have a monopoly of fools for fans. Regardless, universities don't answer to fans or try to appease them. They answer to the alumni if anything. The one thing Cooper didn't do is beat Michigan on field. Harbaugh has beat Ohio on the field as a player and as a coach. That makes him golden legacy wise.
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