@Steven59 said:
Condolences to all family and friends. That said David Pike died almost a month ago. The OP posts the word COVID more times than he mentions David Pike. Is this a thread on covid opinions or is it truly a remembrance thread for Mr Pike?
I wonder why so many refuse to take this seriously (Mr. Pike included when his death most likely could have been prevented)? When we send our coins in for grading we expect "experts" are grading them and take them at their word. But for some reason many seem to feel the EXPERTS in virology have no idea what they are talking about.
I wonder why people can't just offer their sympathy or say nothing?
How do you know that Mr. Pike didn't have a condition that made his vaccine choice rational? Not everyone CAN get the vaccine.
The quality of mercy is not strained.
My condolences to his family. They deserve better than this thread.
@Steven59 said:
Condolences to all family and friends. That said David Pike died almost a month ago. The OP posts the word COVID more times than he mentions David Pike. Is this a thread on covid opinions or is it truly a remembrance thread for Mr Pike?
I wonder why so many refuse to take this seriously (Mr. Pike included when his death most likely could have been prevented)? When we send our coins in for grading we expect "experts" are grading them and take them at their word. But for some reason many seem to feel the EXPERTS in virology have no idea what they are talking about.
Great book called “the death of expertise.”
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@Steven59 said:
Condolences to all family and friends. That said David Pike died almost a month ago. The OP posts the word COVID more times than he mentions David Pike. Is this a thread on covid opinions or is it truly a remembrance thread for Mr Pike?
I wonder why so many refuse to take this seriously (Mr. Pike included when his death most likely could have been prevented)? When we send our coins in for grading we expect "experts" are grading them and take them at their word. But for some reason many seem to feel the EXPERTS in virology have no idea what they are talking about.
There are plenty of places you can go to rant about the pandemic.
This is a coin forum and this thread was meant to alert people to a loss in the coin community and allow people to share experiences with the dealer or offer condolences.
@Steven59 said:
Condolences to all family and friends. That said David Pike died almost a month ago. The OP posts the word COVID more times than he mentions David Pike. Is this a thread on covid opinions or is it truly a remembrance thread for Mr Pike?
I wonder why so many refuse to take this seriously (Mr. Pike included when his death most likely could have been prevented)? When we send our coins in for grading we expect "experts" are grading them and take them at their word. But for some reason many seem to feel the EXPERTS in virology have no idea what they are talking about.
There are plenty of places you can go to rant about the pandemic.
This is a coin forum and this thread was meant to alert people to a loss in the coin community and allow people to share experiences with the dealer or offer condolences.
Not ranting about anything. Just tired of people being stupid when it was MOST LIKELY PREVENTABLE. Good day.
@knovak1976 said:
When we send our coins in for grading we expect "experts" are grading them and take them at their word.
You don't think the second most common thread (after is my parking lot road rash coin an error) is how could [Insert the name of a TPG] get this coin grade so wrong?
-----Burton ANA 50 year/Life Member (now "Emeritus")
Very sorry to hear of his death. There have been a lot of reports on the forum over the years about the Grapevine show. Condolences to his family and friends.
@knovak1976 said:
When we send our coins in for grading we expect "experts" are grading them and take them at their word.
You don't think the second most common thread (after is my parking lot road rash coin an error) is how could [Insert the name of a TPG] get this coin grade so wrong?
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There are plenty of places you can go to rant about the pandemic.
This is a coin forum and this thread was meant to alert people to a loss in the coin community and allow people to share experiences with the dealer or offer condolences.
First off, my condolences to the family and I hope he is at peace.
Back when I was a younger man I was a road cyclist and belonged to a number of online forums on the subject.
As you can guess, when you are associating with a group of people dressed in Lycra shorts who sound like tap dancers walking into the coffee shop at the half way point, most of the people on the site leaned a bit left.
Political conversations started destroying the forums and the site elected to create a PO "Politics Only" forum and it went a long way to helping threads like this from being hijacked.
Our hosts might want to consider something like this. It did a lot to help help the threads stick to things like "Campy vs. Shimano vs. SRAM.
I didn't like the two doses of vaccine, but got it anyway; toughest shots I ever got. Personally I'm very focused on physical health; I'd walk 7 miles a day if it were necessary or chow down on a head of garlic cloves a day if it would protect me.
As John Donne once said, every death diminishes us all. Grief and sadness are how I respond.
@Frankcoins said:
At the Grapevine, Texas coin show this weekend, I learned by this sign on the door that dealer David Pike (Liberty Rare Coins owner and ran the Grapevine show with his wife Ginger ) passed away Nov. 19. He was not vaccinated against COVID, and when he got sick, refused to go to the hospital.
Ginger became the sole owner of the show after a nasty divorce, just in time to have it shut down for almost a year due to COVID.
I didn't know the man. A quick search and read reveals that he was a an avid collector, dealer, and business owner. I can only assume that you knew him? This is a coin message board and I'm trying to understand why you decided to highlight the fact that he wasn't vaccinated.. Was that necessary? I hope his family doesn't look here and see that is his claim to fame here.. Wow, I don't get it.. JMHO
My prayers and condolences to his family and friends..
@DollarAfterDollar said:
Eighty percent of deaths from Covid today are of the unvaccinated. The fact that he was sick and refused to even go to a hospital is shocking, but speaks to where we are as a country.
I wonder why so many refuse to take this seriously (Mr. Pike included when his death most likely could have been prevented)?
I personally did not know Mr Pike but no obituary, no newspaper articles, no 'Official' report of his death has been posted on line. How did we determine Covid killed him and, citing HIPPA, how do we know he refused medical treatment? No money in this game - just asking.
@jughead1893 said:
Hard to believe we cant keep this about coins.The first time I spent $100 on a coin was with David.XF barber half.Still have it somewhere.
Now that would be a nice tribute to see the wares he handled posted here.
Condolences to friends and family.
Short of that : spread the love.
@AlexinPA said:
I wonder why so many refuse to take this seriously (Mr. Pike included when his death most likely could have been prevented)?
I personally did not know Mr Pike but no obituary, no newspaper articles, no 'Official' report of his death has been posted on line. How did we determine Covid killed him and, citing HIPPA, how do we know he refused medical treatment? No money in this game - just asking.
Yes, agree totally. The average age of COVID death in the US is 78. Mr. Pike appears to have been 77. I too, would like to know what treatments he got or tried, if any. It is beatable with drugs that we all have heard of and only the worst cases have these bad outcomes. Comorbidity problems play a huge part and as we age our immune system is not as strong as it should be. But, there is help. I just hope he was at peace.
bob
Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
1) First and foremost, my sympathies to the family. Didn't know him personally but know he was a nice and fair old school dealer with a lot of friends in the business.
2) It's disappointing the OP made unproven assumptions and made this more about COVID and less about him.
3) It's also disappointing that this has turned into a battle of keyboard warrior armchair medical experts.
4) There's a difference between dying WITH Covid and dying FROM it.
5) In my experience, the "follow the science" crowd only use that phrase when it appears to fit a given agenda.
My condolences to his family and friends.
It seems the coin community has lost a well liked member. RIP
Given my personal experiences with our current public health crisis, I have very strong views on the issue.
I come HERE, in an attempt put all that behind me.
Unless the deceased was regretting his not getting the vaccine, and wanted all to know that he was reconsidering that viewpoint until the end, and he wanted that viewpoint shared, I believe it was inappropriate to mention it in his remembrance here.
Given the wording of this notice of his passing, the circumstances of his departure are now the very sad fodder to a much bigger debate- which is beyond the scope of this forum, and frankly, most of its participants.
It’s out of order to speculate on the specifics based on the information available.
There are so many directions this could take!
For all we know, he may have been a strong Christian Scientist and decided not to seek medical advice because he wanted to utilize his strong faith in prayer towards his path back to health.
Maybe, he hated doctors?
There are MANY different ways this could have played out!
We just don’t know!
Unless Mr. Pike gave implicit instructions as to the wording, implications and significance of his parting, it is in poor taste to speculate on the possibilities.
I’m using a lot of restraint here.
My sympathies to all.
Happy, humble, honored and proud recipient of the “You Suck” award 10/22/2014
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I wonder why people can't just offer their sympathy or say nothing?
How do you know that Mr. Pike didn't have a condition that made his vaccine choice rational? Not everyone CAN get the vaccine.
The quality of mercy is not strained.
My condolences to his family. They deserve better than this thread.
Great book called “the death of expertise.”
100% positive transactions with SurfinxHI, bigole, 1madman, collectorcoins, proofmorgan, Luke Marshall, silver pop, golden egg, point five zero,coin22lover, alohagary, blaircountycoin,joebb21
There are plenty of places you can go to rant about the pandemic.
This is a coin forum and this thread was meant to alert people to a loss in the coin community and allow people to share experiences with the dealer or offer condolences.
Not ranting about anything. Just tired of people being stupid when it was MOST LIKELY PREVENTABLE. Good day.
You don't think the second most common thread (after is my parking lot road rash coin an error) is how could [Insert the name of a TPG] get this coin grade so wrong?
ANA 50 year/Life Member (now "Emeritus")
Very sorry to hear of his death. There have been a lot of reports on the forum over the years about the Grapevine show. Condolences to his family and friends.
CAC
Gesundheit
My condolences go out to Mr. Pike’s loved ones and friends.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Hard to believe we cant keep this about coins.The first time I spent $100 on a coin was with David.XF barber half.Still have it somewhere.
What coin was it?
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First off, my condolences to the family and I hope he is at peace.
Back when I was a younger man I was a road cyclist and belonged to a number of online forums on the subject.
As you can guess, when you are associating with a group of people dressed in Lycra shorts who sound like tap dancers walking into the coffee shop at the half way point, most of the people on the site leaned a bit left.
Political conversations started destroying the forums and the site elected to create a PO "Politics Only" forum and it went a long way to helping threads like this from being hijacked.
Our hosts might want to consider something like this. It did a lot to help help the threads stick to things like "Campy vs. Shimano vs. SRAM.
I didn't like the two doses of vaccine, but got it anyway; toughest shots I ever got. Personally I'm very focused on physical health; I'd walk 7 miles a day if it were necessary or chow down on a head of garlic cloves a day if it would protect me.
As John Donne once said, every death diminishes us all. Grief and sadness are how I respond.
Condolences to his family. I bought my first 4-figure coin from him many years ago.
Condolences to all of you that knew him and to his family as well.
I didn't know the man. A quick search and read reveals that he was a an avid collector, dealer, and business owner. I can only assume that you knew him? This is a coin message board and I'm trying to understand why you decided to highlight the fact that he wasn't vaccinated.. Was that necessary? I hope his family doesn't look here and see that is his claim to fame here.. Wow, I don't get it.. JMHO
My prayers and condolences to his family and friends..
Bullsh!t
May he rest in peace.
Very sorry to hear of his passing. He will be missed greatly. My sincere condolences to his family and friends.
I wonder why so many refuse to take this seriously (Mr. Pike included when his death most likely could have been prevented)?
I personally did not know Mr Pike but no obituary, no newspaper articles, no 'Official' report of his death has been posted on line. How did we determine Covid killed him and, citing HIPPA, how do we know he refused medical treatment? No money in this game - just asking.
Now that would be a nice tribute to see the wares he handled posted here.
Condolences to friends and family.
Short of that : spread the love.
Yes, agree totally. The average age of COVID death in the US is 78. Mr. Pike appears to have been 77. I too, would like to know what treatments he got or tried, if any. It is beatable with drugs that we all have heard of and only the worst cases have these bad outcomes. Comorbidity problems play a huge part and as we age our immune system is not as strong as it should be. But, there is help. I just hope he was at peace.
bob
1) First and foremost, my sympathies to the family. Didn't know him personally but know he was a nice and fair old school dealer with a lot of friends in the business.
2) It's disappointing the OP made unproven assumptions and made this more about COVID and less about him.
3) It's also disappointing that this has turned into a battle of keyboard warrior armchair medical experts.
4) There's a difference between dying WITH Covid and dying FROM it.
5) In my experience, the "follow the science" crowd only use that phrase when it appears to fit a given agenda.
RIP Mom- 1932-2012
My condolences to his family and friends.
It seems the coin community has lost a well liked member. RIP
Given my personal experiences with our current public health crisis, I have very strong views on the issue.
I come HERE, in an attempt put all that behind me.
Unless the deceased was regretting his not getting the vaccine, and wanted all to know that he was reconsidering that viewpoint until the end, and he wanted that viewpoint shared, I believe it was inappropriate to mention it in his remembrance here.
Given the wording of this notice of his passing, the circumstances of his departure are now the very sad fodder to a much bigger debate- which is beyond the scope of this forum, and frankly, most of its participants.
It’s out of order to speculate on the specifics based on the information available.
There are so many directions this could take!
For all we know, he may have been a strong Christian Scientist and decided not to seek medical advice because he wanted to utilize his strong faith in prayer towards his path back to health.
Maybe, he hated doctors?
There are MANY different ways this could have played out!
We just don’t know!
Unless Mr. Pike gave implicit instructions as to the wording, implications and significance of his parting, it is in poor taste to speculate on the possibilities.
I’m using a lot of restraint here.
My sympathies to all.
Happy, humble, honored and proud recipient of the “You Suck” award 10/22/2014