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Do you ever make offers on BIN-only items on eBay?

airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,249 ✭✭✭✭✭

I'm used to buying fixed-price items on eBay two ways: BIN if that's it, or offer a bit of a discount if the option is available. I came across an item today that's fixed price only, but it's been listed for half a year, which makes me wonder if the seller is really stubborn waiting for that price, or if I should throw out an unsolicited offer and see what happens.

I suppose a side question based on your reply is whether you'd also make an offer if the item just came up. Assume the price may be on the higher side but isn't outrageous.

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  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,703 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have absolutely sent sellers offers through the eBay system, usually I will ask them to enable the option to make an offer rather than ending the auction outright. If I know the coin has been listed for a while, I will absolutely mention that in my note to the seller.

    Sean Reynolds

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  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 13,998 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes

    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,703 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I always make a case for my number

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,366 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @airplanenut said:
    I'm used to buying fixed-price items on eBay two ways: BIN if that's it, or offer a bit of a discount if the option is available. I came across an item today that's fixed price only, but it's been listed for half a year, which makes me wonder if the seller is really stubborn waiting for that price, or if I should throw out an unsolicited offer and see what happens.

    I suppose a side question based on your reply is whether you'd also make an offer if the item just came up. Assume the price may be on the higher side but isn't outrageous.

    It could just be an item looking for the right buyer. Some people are not desperate to sell.

  • charlesf20charlesf20 Posts: 383 ✭✭✭

    I do it. 50/50 chance.

  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,902 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I will send an offer and I review all offers on items I am selling even if the offer option is not on the listing. ;)

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,292 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @seanq said:
    I have absolutely sent sellers offers through the eBay system, usually I will ask them to enable the option to make an offer rather than ending the auction outright. If I know the coin has been listed for a while, I will absolutely mention that in my note to the seller.

    Sean Reynolds

    I will never change an auction to a BIN at a lower number. You're asking me to undermine the auction.

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,703 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It’s not an auction, it’s a BIN

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  • relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Quite often I do. Sometimes they are willing to budge and other times not.

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,426 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've done it a few times. I normally get an acceptance or a counteroffer or a lecture on how expensive it is to sell on eBay.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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  • moursundmoursund Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @charlesf20 said:
    I do it. 50/50 chance.

    Does that mean either it works or it doesn't? That doesn't make it a 50/50 chance 🤪

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,426 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @moursund said:

    @charlesf20 said:
    I do it. 50/50 chance.

    Does that mean either it works or it doesn't? That doesn't make it a 50/50 chance 🤪

    I think is means it works half the time.

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  • moursundmoursund Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:

    @moursund said:

    @charlesf20 said:
    I do it. 50/50 chance.

    Does that mean either it works or it doesn't? That doesn't make it a 50/50 chance 🤪

    I think is means it works half the time.

    Ah, half of one, six dozen of the other...

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  • alefzeroalefzero Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I do often enough. And if OBO is not on the BIN lot, I will contact the seller letting them know of my interest and what my top offer would be. Never want the seller to be in a losing position, since I am far too often myself, and I make that clear. Never hard feelings.

  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I contact the seller and explain my situation. I am respectful, pleasant and understanding. I don’t resell so I can honestly talk about why I want this item and how it will become part of a legacy collection ( one that is handed down through the generations until no one wants it and then it goes to local museum or such). Sometimes we agree or I have put a deposit until the first (so to speak). Usually we have a nice conversation and sometimes things just don’t work out. I have also been able to put together a little combo sale. Get the one I want and add a cool new one as well. JZ

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  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've done it once in a while and have had them accepted about 50% of the time. Some times we bargain.

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  • SIowhandSIowhand Posts: 348 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Never purchased anything without making an attempt at a lower price.

  • charlesf20charlesf20 Posts: 383 ✭✭✭

    @moursund said:

    @charlesf20 said:
    I do it. 50/50 chance.

    Does that mean either it works or it doesn't? That doesn't make it a 50/50 chance 🤪

    It means the exact same thing that relicsncoins posted above.

  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,417 ✭✭✭✭✭

    And if the "list price" is a bargain, the smart money buys it at that price. I've had people submit offers and had the item sell for "full price" while they were waiting.

    If the list price is a bargain, that's not what I'm talking about.

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  • moursundmoursund Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SIowhand said:
    Never purchased anything without making an attempt at a lower price.

    Does that include shaking the hell out of vending machines? 😉

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  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes I have.

  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes what is the worst that can happen they say no or you need to bid or pay what I want.



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  • bsshog40bsshog40 Posts: 3,925 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sometimes I will pay bin if I think it's a decent price just so I don’t have to go thru the bidding war. I've also made offers on bins and as long as I'm not low balling the seller, I usually have good success saving a couple dollars.

  • daltexdaltex Posts: 3,486 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I guess I just assume that if they were interested in entertaining offers they would have enabled that functionality. Has anyone (here) been blocked for making an unsolicited offer?

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,292 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @daltex said:
    I guess I just assume that if they were interested in entertaining offers they would have enabled that functionality. Has anyone (here) been blocked for making an unsolicited offer?

    I have blocked people for making ridiculously low offers. I've never blocked anyone for making a reasonable offer.

    I will also say that if you counter my offer, I will retract my offer and not entertain any more. I'm not going to waste time playing that game. My counter is my best offer and not negotiable further.

  • fathomfathom Posts: 1,779 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Of course.

    I will never take the time to block, just let it expire.

  • Dave99BDave99B Posts: 8,608 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’ve had decent luck making offers, when that option is available. I try to be reasonable, and make a fair offer. I don’t lowball people…don’t want to waste everyone’s time.

    Dave

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  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,703 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @seanq said:
    I have absolutely sent sellers offers through the eBay system, usually I will ask them to enable the option to make an offer rather than ending the auction outright. If I know the coin has been listed for a while, I will absolutely mention that in my note to the seller.

    Sean Reynolds

    I will never change an auction to a BIN at a lower number. You're asking me to undermine the auction.

    Sorry I should have said listing, not auction, as I would only make such a request for a fixed price item.

    Sean Reynolds

    Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.

    "Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,167 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Do it all the time for items I feel are priced a little high for me. If it is a fair price asked, I do not. Usually, they are priced high. Have a better than 50% success rate. I don't bother if their is less than 12 or so hours left, but even then if it closes without sale, I offer again if interested.
    Jim


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  • jackpine20jackpine20 Posts: 142 ✭✭✭✭

    Some time back, I listed a small group of old padlocks (with keys) via buy it now for something like $15. Someone messaged me and asked if I would accept his offer of $7.50. He said he was retired and on a fixed income. I believed him. I accepted his offer with a smirk.

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,678 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes, some times it goes some times it doesn't

  • MarkKelleyMarkKelley Posts: 1,911 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I just ignore lowball ridiculous offers. They may have wasted their time but they're not going to waste mine.

  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 14, 2021 4:17AM

    @moursund said:

    @SIowhand said:
    Never purchased anything without making an attempt at a lower price.

    Does that include shaking the hell out of vending machines? 😉

    I always found that a well placed kick was more effective 😂🙀

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,426 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MarkKelley said:
    I just ignore lowball ridiculous offers. They may have wasted their time but they're not going to waste mine.

    I know how you feel. I see grossly overpriced coins with the OBO option. I'm not going to waste my time making an offer to these clueless sellers.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have made offers on BIN items.... Not lowball, just what I consider reasonable. Looking at my records, I have a 68% success rate.... Not a lot of buying though... low double digits. Cheers, RickO

  • coinandcurrency242coinandcurrency242 Posts: 1,962 ✭✭✭✭

    I have haggled back and forth, and i have been able to get a few coins from making an offer. I picked this up with the best offer of $280 (before taxes and shipping fees). I think it was originally listed for closer to $400 which was a little high considering it is not even AU, but that did not discourage me for trying to be reasonable.


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  • vulcanizevulcanize Posts: 1,408 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I play very fair and offer a negotiable price that is a win-win for both of us.
    Have won most of it that way and have lost some because of the rigidity of seller, but no remorse whatsoever because a better exampe would be waiting for me around the corner.

  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    eBay is a lot like a flea market. Ask about what you want. Maybe make a deal. Move on. Ever notice people complaining about haggling at a flea market? Not really. Just a little thought moving through brain 😉

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  • BarberianBarberian Posts: 3,785 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 14, 2021 9:26AM

    @Lakesammman said:
    Any idiot can pay full price ....... I prefer not to.

    Any idiot can have a coin they want badly sold out from under them while they try to negotiate a better price. I've lost some really nice coins that way.

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  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 8,169 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting thread... I've thought about sending an offer, but I've never done it. More recently, I've been looking at coins... a lot of which are seemingly overpriced, but I'll put them on my "Watch List" just to see if there are any takers... 3-4 times in the past week, the seller has come back with "... because you've shown interest in this item, you get a discount of X%"... I took one of the sellers up on their offer, but mostly the discounted price is still a tad high...

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  • jt88jt88 Posts: 3,076 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 14, 2021 9:51AM

    What is reasonable price? Let’s say a rare or scarce coin that the seller bought for 10k. Now he listed for 20k. Is his price too high? Very hard to say because it might go to 30k or more in 5 years in auction if he don’t list it now. I believe only those coins that you can easily find on eBay or auction has a fair price.

  • jt88jt88 Posts: 3,076 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If you think the seller asked for too much then just move on. Why bother to make offer

  • jt88jt88 Posts: 3,076 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A seller has a coin listed for 18k that was sold for 7k in auction couple years ago. I offered 12k he did not agree so I just moved on. He has the right to ask for what he want. It is a free market. He might be able to sell for his price who knows.

  • moursundmoursund Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lkenefic said:
    Interesting thread... I've thought about sending an offer, but I've never done it. More recently, I've been looking at coins... a lot of which are seemingly overpriced, but I'll put them on my "Watch List" just to see if there are any takers... 3-4 times in the past week, the seller has come back with "... because you've shown interest in this item, you get a discount of X%"... I took one of the sellers up on their offer, but mostly the discounted price is still a tad high...

    Many times I watch an item the seller gives me an offer, and I counter, and we reach a price. Seems like part of the game. For me, it's saving e.g $2 on a $20 coin, or maybe $7 on a $90 coin or whatever.

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  • I've actually had a seller make a new listing for me simply by asking. I bought a coin from him. Fast forward 6 months and I needed another one. Messaged him through eBay, asking if he had any more of the particular coin, as there were none listed at the time, and the price I was willing to pay. Got a reply 15 minutes later with a link to a new listing at my price point.

  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,110 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've used make an offer with mixed results on EBay. I'd rather bst here. Peace Roy

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  • moursundmoursund Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Namvet69 said:
    I've used make an offer with mixed results on EBay. I'd rather bst here. Peace Roy

    BST here is great for certain "mid-to-upper" scale items. Mostly out of my league. :smile:

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