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Would rare coin market be worth more without US Mint products?

Hear me out, technically the US mint is the worlds largest coin dealer, and in away they should advance the hobby. But over the last 20 or 30 years, it seems to me many people buy US Mint products thinking they will go up and become a substantial investment for their family, and that hasn’t been the case. So my theory is many people have been put off buying coins or coin collectibles because of this.

Do you think pre-1930s silver/gold coins would be worth substantially more if the US Mint didn’t release so many commemoratives?

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  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,574 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No

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  • rip_frip_f Posts: 368 ✭✭✭✭

    Most people buy Mint coins knowing full well they are not likely to appreciate in dollar terms.
    They do appreciate in non-monetary ways - the joys maintaining set completeness, the beauty of the designs and quality of the craftsmanship, displaying and discussing with other collectors and club members, etc.

    But yes, one's classic coin budget is occasionally impacted by Mint purchases.

  • olympicsosolympicsos Posts: 855 ✭✭✭✭

    I think that with some exceptions, the rare coin market and the US Mint market aren't the same. Is there potential for the US Mint to capture more of the rare coin market, especially with creating modern versions of classic gold coins, absolutely.

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No. The US Mint makes some really cool mistakes, err I mean products :D

  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,614 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They seem to keep dropping a larger bucket into a dryer well.

  • privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No. Because most collectors cannot afford the rare coin market regardless of mint products.

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  • HoldTheMayoHoldTheMayo Posts: 130 ✭✭✭

    That’s a very valid point. Hard to have overlap with someone who buys a $100 commemorative vs a $1000 MS65

    @privatecoin said:
    No. Because most collectors cannot afford the rare coin market regardless of mint products.

  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,461 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No

    USM products strong part of coin collecting.

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  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,825 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Maybe a bit, but not by a significant amount.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,292 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Could be worth less. How many people started with a proof set?

    Could be worth more. If the money is destined for coins.

    Could have no effect.

    But why pick on the Mint? What about bullion? Would the taste coin market be worth more of bullion were illegal to own?

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,703 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I wonder how many converts there would be versus change pickers

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  • moursundmoursund Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @HoldTheMayo said:
    That’s a very valid point. Hard to have overlap with someone who buys a $100 commemorative vs a $1000 MS65

    @privatecoin said:
    No. Because most collectors cannot afford the rare coin market regardless of mint products.

    Wonder what is overlap... I don't buy moderns (except a few Ikes), and many people only buy mint products.

    My speculation is that tighter supply of mint collectables would have little direct affect on classic collectors, but might affect the next generations.

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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,444 ✭✭✭✭✭

    One (modern market) leads to the other ( rare coin market).

    And somewhere near there is a good hobby.

  • fathomfathom Posts: 1,779 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nope. Huge net positive promoter of the hobby and link to precious metals and numismatics.

    And vice versa.

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,366 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @rip_f said:
    But yes, one's classic coin budget is occasionally impacted by Mint purchases.

    The key is occasionally. Mine wasn't really impacted this year. I wanted to buy the 2021 Peace and Morgan dollars but missed out so zero impact :/

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,366 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 10, 2021 7:25PM

    I think the US Mint is a huge bonus. They get a lot of people in the door.

    I think the rare coin market would be worth a lot less without the US Mint.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No... They are separate fields. In fact, with some limited minting's, the Mint contributes (somewhat) to the rare coin market. For example, the 1995 W ASE. Cheers, RickO

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