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1883 Hawaii Quarter - Is this artificial toning?

JTHawaiiJTHawaii Posts: 113 ✭✭✭
edited December 8, 2021 11:37AM in U.S. Coin Forum

Bought this quarter in a National Numismatic Certification slab, for no other reason than it looked like a nice coin and was a good price, total cost was about $140. I know not to put too much trust in this TPG so I was buying like it was raw. If anyone is interested, here is the eBay link.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/393713781573?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649

Toning looks off being bright blue and the slab fell open so I put it in a plastic 2x2. Looks a little better than a PCGS graded MS61 that I have but the toning is strange. NIce luster and cartwheels and no toning on the reverse, only on the obverse. Last picture shows the brightness of the blue. Any opinions are welcome.



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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 8, 2021 12:07PM

    Although it may very well be post dip secondary the toning looks legit to me.

    Edited to add: The toning actually looks better in the seller's pics than yours.

    Also I wouldn't lose any sleep as even if it grades out as CH AU you did well.

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 16,674 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My guess is naturally toned.

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    gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,901 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks natural to me.

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    MeltdownMeltdown Posts: 9,247 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That looks acceptable to me. Very nice.

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    SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,970 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks ok.

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    JBKJBK Posts: 17,471 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 8, 2021 2:07PM

    I like it!

    Aloha!

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    anablepanablep Posts: 5,204 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Love the look of that quarter!

    Great coin.

    Always looking for attractive rim toned Morgan and Peace dollars in PCGS or (older) ANA/ANACS holders!

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    JTHawaiiJTHawaii Posts: 113 ✭✭✭

    Thanks everyone, I hope to eventually get it PCGS graded once I have a few more to send in with it.

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    BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,933 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 8, 2021 2:56PM

    It's slightly dark around the rims for my liking (maybe, hard to tell.....), but overall it looks natural.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Could well be NT, but approaching terminal black at the edge... Cheers, RickO

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    ElmerFusterpuckElmerFusterpuck Posts: 4,896 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks NT all day long.

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    7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,983 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks dipped with retone around edge secondary to environmental (holder), technically "naturally" retoned.

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    U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 6,908 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’m a bit skeptical as I saw Centsles (the person that does the NNC slabs) sell a group of these several months ago. They all had this same type of color and pattern. They may have been natural but it could be accelerated toning too. Also he tends to know coins, so it would seem that if it was worth it he would send it to a top TPG himself instead of selling in his own slab.

    This is someone reselling one from that original batch. The final price was low enough that I think you will be fine even if it comes back as UNC Details (and if it straight graded, then that is a win).

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    OldEastsideOldEastside Posts: 4,602 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks album toned which I consider Natural

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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 32,484 ✭✭✭✭✭

    looks natural to me

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    AMRCAMRC Posts: 4,280 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No.

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    TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    looks natural to me

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    Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes looks good I would of put out the $140 for it.



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    CopperWireCopperWire Posts: 492 ✭✭✭

    That looks like secondary toning for a Hawaii silver issue. These coins were shipped in dirty burlap sacks across the Pacific...the eye appeal on that one is great but I doubt it is the original skin.

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    TRTR Posts: 58 ✭✭✭

    I just recently cracked out and submitted to PCGS 5 MS67 NNC Morgans. The 3 white ones graded MS 65, the 2 with rim toning like yours were graded Unc Questionable Color. Hope this helps.

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