Ravens for 2?
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And they failed
Stupid call, I would have taken it into overtime, they were lucky to go 60 yards and score to begin with, Harbaugh is an idiot!
Harbaugh family can only have 1 winner every season?
gutsy. but a stupid call.
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It wasn’t like their offense had it up to 38-37
It was a tough game
I understand the thinking behind it, win the game and get out, but too much can go wrong, and if you don't get the conversion, it's over.
I was yelling at the TV, "don't do it John, play it safe." He didn't hear me.
game of inches. if Jackson's pass is a couple to the left we're having a different conversation
i'll never, ever have a problem with a coach playing to win. my favorite team has an hc who has a propensity for playing not to lose and it makes me physically ill
i admire Harbaugh's stones. give me 2 yards over the possibility of never even possessing the ball in overtime every day of the week and twice on Sunday
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Dumb call. I was shocked. It's not like this was a team with nothing on the line.
They have the best kicker in football. Send the game into OT.
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I’m thinking they deserved to lose
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It was a gutsy call, very exciting, love to watch it. But it just didn't feel right in the moment knowing what we know abut the situation, the season, the game, etc.
72 inches away from paydirt with the ball in the hands of a unanimous MVP and arguably the most elusive player in the NFL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sending the game into OT and injecting a healthy dose of chance into the equation
I will gladly disagree with every single one of you cats
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There was certainly chance in the 2 point conversion
of course there was. I've stated my case for which option I think had more, just as you have. nothing wrong with that; that's why we're here. but you saying they deserved to lose is patently absurd. you're acting like John Harbaugh is a modern-day Shoeless Joe Jackson for manifesting extreme confidence in his offensive unit to get two yards to win the game
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I got no problem with the call, if I’m a Ravens fan I’m going to support that decision win or lose.
I hate the Ravens so I’m glad they lost but I respect the call
I liked the call. Pittsburgh was rolling in the fourth quarter. Perhaps Harbaugh thought he had a better chance on one play than to go into overtime. Much respect for coach Harbaugh. However I hate his stinking brother.
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I guess I missed it. I was at SoFi Stadium for the Rams game since 8:30 this morning. Just got home. It's 7:44 Pacific Daylight Time.......WHAT HAPPENED? I want the blow by blow.
I couldn’t do it justice
Watch the news, but I’ll start with
Low scoring game
Ravens managed to stay out front until late 4th
Ravens had to do a <2:00 drive for a td.
Then … it happened
They went for two as long their CB's were banged up and out of the game. They didn't want to go to OT. They took their shot then and there.
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Makes sense. Thanks.
They moved the ball down field much more convincingly for their TD than the Steelers did. They even were flagged in the process.
I'll trust that the coach knew what they were dealing with. Lose the coin toss and they may never see the ball. Pittsburgh scored on their previous three drives and scored 17 points in the 4th quarter. They scored 3 points in the previous three quarters.
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The more I think about it and read other's opinions, the more I am coming around on the decision. In the moment, it didn't feel right to me. If this was a must win game, I think it would have been the wrong decision.
Perhaps the Baltimore coach did not want to go to overtime and risk having more of his players injured. If they got the two point conversion, game over. If they didn’t, it was a loss, but perhaps not a critical loss.
I thought it was an unwise decision, but my thoughts stated above went through my mind.
so Harbaugh is now an idiot and moron??
I've said that about him for quite awhile and got no agreement. welcome to the Desert "Real" everyone. that decision reflects what Harbaugh really is and he should probably be hung-out-to-dry by the fans and media. in the real world of the NFL they don't give points for being gutsy or having style. his decision is an outgrowth of analytics, the same thing that drives all the recent 4th down non-punt decisions.
it makes it hard to watch games when Teams are reluctant on 3rd and two to run the ball.
it makes it hard to watch games when Teams reach the goal line, inside the five and 1st down, and they can't run the ball in.
the outcome last night shows the perfect mating of John Harbaugh and Lamar Jackson, a QB who has demonstrated he isn't reliable when passing the ball and a Head Coach who is willing to let him try when things are on the line. in a strangely peculiar way, they deserve each other, but if I was a Ravens fan I'd want heads to roll after last night. the strategy should have been simple:
--- let perhaps the best kicker in NFL history convert the PAT for the tie, then go to OT.
--- take the 50-50 chance with the coin flip.
--- play for field position and let Justin Tucker win the game.
being OK with how it worked out is just stupid fan talk. what Harbaugh did could realistically cause the Ravens home-field advantage at some point in the playoffs against a Team far better than the Pittsburgh Steelers.
I shake head at the hits Lamar Jackson takes. While other franchise quarterbacks go into a slide as soon as a tackler appears, he keeps going and takes the hits like a running back. It’s going to catch up with him eventually.
i wish guys like @Justacommeman and @Brick would stop trying to thwart a good public stoning with sound reasoning
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"oh em gee this strategy is genius"
"but didn't the Steelers hang 17 on Baltimore in the 4th, Matt? what happens when Pittsburgh wins the coin flip, blows down the field on a gassed Ravens' D again and houses one? you do realize that your little strategy will be null and void at that point, right Matt? do you think Baltimore will then regret not putting the ball in the hands of their playmaker at the 2? your thoughts, Matt?"
"oh em gee this strategy is genius"
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steelers had end of game momentum
it is easy to say that was the right call as a member of a sports chat room, maybe not so easy to defend it as the Head coach who made it. mock me if you want to, but Harbaugh hurt his Team.
the ravens moved the ball down the field really well for that last drive, but I like the odds on the coin flip better than the 2 point.
Not true at all. I already explained why. Pittsburgh scored on their last three drives in the 4th. They only had a FG the previous 9 drives. It all coincided with the Ravens injuries in the second half. Its was the right decision with a poor result. Got to be able to live with that. They had their shot.
A FG only wins you a game in OT if you hold the the other team to one or stop then all together. So the Tucker comment doesn't come into play as a huge factor when your D is on life support.
Not mocking you but I think you're barking up the wrong tree. It was the most sensible decision when all the facts are laid out.
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I still think you extend the game and go for the win in OT. We'll see what impact if any this has on them the rest of the way.
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https://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/john-harbaugh-explains-two-point-conversion-decision-in-pittsburgh
For the record I posted the topic before the snap
With the injury factor, though, and the fact they didn't have sufficient secondary personnel, I can at least understand the reasoning behind it better.
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Harbaugh took a calculated risk going for 2. Good play call that lacked execution. He tried to capitalize on the momentum gained within the 45 seconds to prevent the larger issue that OT presented. I wonder how many would say he did the wrong thing if they had played for the tie only to be overwhelmed in OT?
Monday morning quarterbacking and coaching seems to have no limitations
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you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
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For the sake of posterity....
I’m not editing!
I thought it was a bad idea before the snap. I saw two fingers. “Bad idea”
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In the moment I thought it was a bad idea. Harbaugh and others have defended the decision with sound reasoning, and I admit that it was not as bad as it felt to me initially. I wonder how often and how cleanly Jackson makes that throw, in practice with a full defense rushing, to give Harbaugh faith there. Because it really was a poorly thrown ball in my opinion. Jackson has not looked the same this year. I know that the Ravens are struggling with injuries and lack of personnel, but it feels as though Jackson"s success depended on him playing with a certain swagger which he seems to have lost.
Most good coaches / teams have been routinely practicing a couple of 2 point / goal line plays most of the season just for these times. I would assume this was one of those plays.
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Apparently it seemed to be a good call but an errant throw. The defense did affect the play but still the throw sailed too far. A little closer and the receiver probably could have gotten a hand on it some way.
instead of thinking in terms of Jackson's passing, the thought should be about how TJ Watt wrecked the play, because that's what happened. it was an all or nothing call by Harbaugh and well executed by everyone on offense, the defense did just what the play was designed for them to do........................except for TJ Watt. he sold out for "pass" and guessed correctly.
my logic in going for OT is based in part with the fact that the game had sped up a little too much, without a time-out the Ravens had to think quickly and act accordingly. with the game heading into OT they could have thought things through and played better because they seemed to have the Steelers back on their heels. the NFL is all about momentum. Baltimore seemed to have taken control to that extent.