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Hello, anyone get their grades yet on the 2021 Morgan’s or 2021 Peace dollars?

Mine are currently at pcgs and are in the grading process now. If you did receive grades I would love to see what you got?

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I did not submit mine.... They both look like 70's, so, in order to avoid disappointment :D;) Not really, I just like them as they are in the mint capsules. They really do look perfect though. Cheers, RickO

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    Che_GrapesChe_Grapes Posts: 1,851 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2, 2021 9:23AM

    I have no desire to grade mine either - to be honest I’m not that excited about them as I once was.... I really wish they would have used the business strike finish on these coins instead of a matte or whatever they called it. They made it look like a commemorative IMO.
    That said the Peace dollar was the only one I really liked...
    maybe the 2022 proof ones will be better.
    But I never saw the value of grading modern coins straight from the mint - I don’t grade my ASEs either.

    They are either 69 or 70 - both essentially perfect grades so what is the point? If I purchased straight from the mint then I know they are genuine...

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    DennisHDennisH Posts: 13,963 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Mine went into QA yesterday, so "Final Jeopardy" music is playing in my head. :D

    When in doubt, don't.
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    MetroDMetroD Posts: 1,935 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The current pop report is interesting.

    Morgan CC Privy FS (877717) - 1,130 @ 69 or less vs. 3,766 @ 70 (76.9% of total)
    Morgan O Privy FS (877715) - 1,351 @ 69 or less vs. 2,931 @ 70 (68.5% of total)
    Morgan D FS (877719) - 1,881 @ 69 or less vs. 1,990 @ 70 (51.4% of total)
    Morgan S FS (877716) - 991 @ 69 or less vs. 2,936 @ 70 (74.8% of total)
    Morgan FS (877718) - 1,044 @ 69 or less vs. 2,561 @ 70 (71.0% of total)
    Peace FS (877720) - 1,082 @ 69 or less vs. 2,708 @ 70 (71.5% of total)

    Reference

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    gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,425 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Che_Grapes In reality these are commeratives. Unless they were intended to circulate. Some people feel they should be part of the respective sets of circulation examples. I see no reason to get them certified either. Most will grade 69 or 70.

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    alefzeroalefzero Posts: 869 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I happened to call about another order just now and asked the status of my other 3.

    20 CC/O have been in Quality check for weeks and was confirmed to be in the second stage of QC. So grades are imminent.

    9 P/D/S Morgans are in grading but currently being imaged and should go to Quality Check soon.

    3 Peace have been in Quality Check and are in the first stage of QC.

    So, I figure the 10 CC and 10 O Morgans should have grades and TrueViews very soon. The others? As long as they deliver them to FUN for pickup, I am happy.

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    Mindy9773Mindy9773 Posts: 160 ✭✭✭

    Good luck to everyone!

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    jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 9,592 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Mine are in qc for almost 4 weeks now

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    DennisHDennisH Posts: 13,963 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jdimmick said:
    Mine are in qc for almost 4 weeks now

    Yikes! :o
    There's goes my dream of getting mine back before Xmas.

    When in doubt, don't.
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    SPalladinoSPalladino Posts: 832 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My 1921-2021 Denver Morgan Centennial set (1921-D Morgan, Dan Carr Denver Morgan Centennial o/s on Denver Morgan, Dan Carr 1921-2021 2oz silver Morgan Centennial, and 2021-D) is in ANACS holders. My S minted Morgans are in ANACS holders. My Peace dollar collection is in ANACS holders. My Carson City dollar collection is in PCGS holders.

    So, the 2021-S, 2021-D, and 2021 Peace went to ANACS, while the 2021 CC privy went to PCGS. Both submissions (ANACS and PCGS) were received/opened on 11/5/2021. I have the ANACS submission back in hand as of 12/2/2021. The PCGS submission has been in QA for 2+ weeks.

    ANACS grades:
    2021-S Morgan....70
    2021-D Morgan....69
    2021 Peace...1x 70 and 2x 69

    Hoping for at least one 70 from the PCGS submission.
    The better of the ANACS 69 Peace dollars will be broken out to go to PCGS with a 1921 Peace for a dual coin holder.

    Steve Palladino
    - Ike Group member
    - DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
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    Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,651 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Steve. Did you see that chart recently posted. The D Morgan’s we’re running half 69 half or less 70. The others were 25 percent 69 bulk70’s

    🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶

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    GoldminersGoldminers Posts: 3,585 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Keep in mind, the PCGS pop report started with advanced, early releases and 1,000- 2,000 coins of each of these graded only 70's, because all the 69's or lower that they sent in at first were not slabbed, so they do not ever show up in pop reports, when a minimum grade of 70 is selected.

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    MetroDMetroD Posts: 1,935 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Goldminers said:
    Keep in mind, the PCGS pop report started with advanced, early releases and 1,000- 2,000 coins of each of these graded only 70's, because all the 69's or lower that they sent in at first were not slabbed, so they do not ever show up in pop reports, when a minimum grade of 70 is selected.

    Valid point.

    This is the reason I focused on 'First Strike' coins in the info I posted above.

    I guess I could have added in the "base" coin numbers, but I was too lazy. :)

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    SPalladinoSPalladino Posts: 832 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Jzyskowski1 said:
    Steve. Did you see that chart recently posted. The D Morgan’s we’re running half 69 half or less 70. The others were 25 percent 69 bulk70’s

    I did see one or two, and even have done a spreadsheet myself. The evidence does suggest that the Denver Morgans may be the most challenged of the lot to make 70. ...and why I'm ok with a 69 in my 1921-2021 Denver Morgan "Centennial Set" (1921-D Morgan, Dan Carr Denver Morgan Centennial o/s on Denver Morgan, Dan Carr 1921-2021 2oz silver Morgan Centennial, and 2021-D). I do not need to pay up for a 70 for this set.

    Steve Palladino
    - Ike Group member
    - DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
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    SPalladinoSPalladino Posts: 832 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Goldminers said:
    Keep in mind, the PCGS pop report started with advanced, early releases and 1,000- 2,000 coins of each of these graded only 70's, because all the 69's or lower that they sent in at first were not slabbed, so they do not ever show up in pop reports, when a minimum grade of 70 is selected.

    I agree 100% with this. The early pop report is skewed toward 70 because of these early bulk submission with a minimum grade of 70 requested.
    However, if one assumes that the first 1-2K coins were bulk submitted with with a minimum grade of 70 requested, and the same number of each mint / privy mark were submitted, then in early pop reports, the total number graded does reveal a bit about the relative possibility of making 70. For example, if about 1800 were graded for each MM/privy, but only 1500 of the Denver Morgans, it is possible that the Denver Morgans are less likely to grade 70.

    Steve Palladino
    - Ike Group member
    - DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
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    jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 9,592 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 3, 2021 8:05PM

    Ok, PCGS ones, not graded as mentioned in QC for 4 weeks now, but I had 3 at NGC from a customer post today:

    21-P 69
    21-S 69
    21-cc privy 70

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    GoldminersGoldminers Posts: 3,585 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I checked NGC Census and these are the % 69's of all the 2021's graded. Obviously, they grade 70's much easier than PCGS.

    D-12%
    O- 11%
    Peace- 8%
    P- 7%
    CC-5%
    S-4%

    This does seem to confirm the PCGS data above, that Denver and also the O privy were less likely to get 70's.

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