My next Hunt. Purchased another one! #4. 2021 Peace Dollar Has ARRIVED!

joeykoins

Hi guys, I see the 1923p Peace Dollar has many varieties. My sights are set on the ""tail on O". Very nice premium. If not, maybe any Peace Dollar that has toning? I see on another thread how the tone Peace Dollars are bringing an extra premium. I'll post any hunted find, if interested? Thanks guys.

Oh yeah, I have NO Peace Dollars in my collection!

Jzyskowski1

Happy hunting buddy 👍🏼

Che_Grapes

The 21 VAMs are most valuable - 3A is popular but1F and 1H (and 1G?) are made with proof dies.
The 22 is also full of top VAMs.
See if you can find a PL peace dollar - super rare! Most rainbow toning is artificial on peace dollars.

Che_Grapes

I now have every P mint peace in uncirculated ... love these coins!!

joeykoins

My First!

Ok guys, Soon as you see my Peace Dollar, I KNOW what you guys will think! Lol.
Ehhh, How ugly! Sure, I get it. As a matter of fact, that's what I first thought too. But when examining the coin closer and seeing the grade, fattie slab and the hidden toning. I was sold. Poor thing, it needed a home and I decided to take her with me. Lol Oh yeah, no VAM. At least not the two I was checking for? Maybe later I'll find one on it? So anyway, I like the coin. That's all that counts. Check out my beauty! Thanks

Love the Reverse

My FIRST Peace Dollar

You know it had to be special

Che_Grapes

Well that was quick - you buy that today?

Che_Grapes

I have a 23 that has a toned tiara and hair ...!!!

joeykoins

@Che_Grapes said:
Well that was quick - you buy that today?

Yes! I don't mess around.
Love your Peace as well. Hint of toning, cool.

BryceM

Well, as @MFeld has said (I'm paraphrasing), buy what you like, but be aware that the broader market might not like the same thing. When it comes to high-grade Peace dollars, the market has a strong affinity for blast white coins. This is also somewhat true of Walkers and Morgans (rainbows excepted), but the preference for white coins seems to be strongest with Peace dollars.

Some Peace toners command a premium, but I'd guess that 95% of toned Peace dollars have neutral to negative eye appeal.

Here's one toner I particularly liked. I bought this as a 65 and paid a huge premium to acquire it. I held it for a few years, was lucky enough to get the "plus" upgrade, and sold it for a nice profit just before the market tanked a few years back. This coin has tremendous luster that really pops - more than my photo can illustrate. The toning is a bit on the subtle side, but accentuates the design elements. I see this toning as neutral to slightly positive.

With many toned Peace dollars, the toning is thick enough that the luster is muted. Those, I don't care for.

291fifth

I hope the 1923 looks better in hand than it does in the photos.

joeykoins

Better Pics?

BryceM

Yes the photos are much better, but sorry, to me the coin has negative eye appeal.

I can see how some would like it. Just don't expect everyone to.

DollarAfterDollar

Yeah Joey, photographing color is the most difficult photography to master. With that coin there's enough reason to try, try again. The coin is at best neutral toning but any peace dollar toning is an exception.

Go to Ikea and get ya 3 Jansjo led lamps. They're like $12 each. Obviously evenly space them from above and tilt the coin just a few degrees. GL.

joeykoins

@DollarAfterDollar said:
Yeah Joey, photographing color is the most difficult photography to master. With that coin there's enough reason to try, try again. The coin is at best neutral toning but any peace dollar toning is an exception.

Go to Ikea and get ya 3 Jansjo led lamps. They're like $12 each. Obviously evenly space them from above and tilt the coin just a few degrees. GL.

Why, thank you, my friend. I'll try to purchase those. If it means better photography. Very Cool. The toning on my newly acquired Peace Dollar is really awesome. However, the coin is much more appealing in hand, than on the internet. Despite the darkness. Got a pretty good deal as well. $70. Lol. Thanks again.

DollarAfterDollar

Price on that was about right.
Here's a photo of my set up. All of about $6. Plus the Jansjo's. I just drop my camera in the stand which holds everything steady, lighting from above, timer to 17 seconds and white balance set on a fairly basic camera.

Good for E-Bay sales.

joeykoins

Awesome demonstration. Thanks.
You should do this for a living! Lol.

ricko

Good to see you finally got a Peace dollar @joeykoins... They are really nice coins... I like both sides. Cheers, RickO

keets

as BryceM sort of stated above, that's kind of an ugly coin and nothing you do to angle the lighting will improve it.

joeykoins

Second Peace $

1924
This time raw. My first rough photo.


Thanks guys

BryceM

Careful, careful......

These things can be addictive.

MsMorrisine

Are you going to do a whole album?

robkool

Joey...

Here's a super kool one for you Super toner with some really kool obverse die cracks. I also have an identical one that is currently raw & blast white. My two most favorites...

joeykoins

@MsMorrisine said:
Are you going to do a whole album?

Not sure on that but might continue picking these up more occasional now?

They are a beautiful coin.

291fifth

Slow down and be more selective when buying common date Peace Dollars.. Both the 1923 and 1924 have sub-standard eye-appeal. The dark spotting on the 1923 is very unattractive and the 1924 looks very washed out.

MsMorrisine

yeah

be patient and go for eye appeal

joeykoins

@291fifth said:
Slow down and be more selective when buying common date Peace Dollars.. Both the 1923 and 1924 have sub-standard eye-appeal. The dark spotting on the 1923 is very unattractive and the 1924 looks very washed out

Thanks

joeykoins

New Photos #2 Peace $

1924




Still have to check for any VAMS?

joeykoins

Hey, a VAM!

"Doubled Reverse" VAM 2

My First Cherry Picked VAM

Che_Grapes

You’re officially hooked now. Go for uncirculated ones - at least ones that have some luster!
That’s nice thing about peace dollars you can collect really nice ones but otherwise they are really just culls. Only the uncirculated ones have any real value except for maybe 2 or 3 dates, 21, 28 and maybe 34S and most dates are available UNC or AU at least. The biggest watch out is there is a lot of cleaned ones out there and they get hairlines very easily....
I keep most of mine ungraded -
I like your toned coin. I have a 28S like that

joeykoins

#3 Peace Dollar

1934d VAM "Small d" ?

Better Pictures Later

joeykoins

Dip-pit-ty Doo-da...

291fifth

The 34-D has excessive marks for the grade. Sorry, but I am not liking your Peace Dollar purchases. Slow down and be more selective. They aren't rare or even scarce.

Jzyskowski1

@joeykoins said:

Dip-pit-ty Doo-da...

I can’t believe that’s the same coin. Pure acetone? Amazing 🤠. How long did you dip it and did you use distilled water for the rinse ?

joeykoins

@Jzyskowski1 said:

@joeykoins said:

Dip-pit-ty Doo-da...

I can’t believe that’s the same coin. Pure acetone? Amazing 🤠. How long did you dip it and did you use distilled water for the rinse ?

Ezest. Dipped for about 1 minute. I realized it was kinda beat up so I decided to dip it. I usually don't want to remove the toning. This time, an exception. It does look amazing. Besides the harsh rubbing on the left side of the obverse. Thanks.

Before

After

Crypto

There is a lot of mint mark diversity of 34d, the ones that matter are paired with the doubled Obv. You can still cherry a few Vam3s esp circulated but the Vam 4s dried up over a decade ago. I think they are underrated being redbook varieties that are the last naked eye double dies on the last silver dollar with actual naked eye variable Rev dies. Really the last of old school coin manufacturing with the Vam4 being not only legitimately scare but conditionally rare in UNC

All that said nobody collects peace vams

coastaljerseyguy

1 minute is too long in EZest and probably removed some surface metal, even if you cannot see. Should be 50/50 solution and < 5 seconds at most, for stubborn haze. The rinse is also important. Hope it doesn't turn.

joeykoins

@Crypto said:
There is a lot of mint mark diversity of 34d, the ones that matter are paired with the doubled Obv. You can still cherry a few Vam3s esp circulated but the Vam 4s dried up over a decade ago. I think they are underrated being redbook varieties that are the last naked eye double dies on the last silver dollar with actual naked eye variable Rev dies. Really the last of old school coin manufacturing with the Vam4 being not only legitimately scare but conditionally rare in UNC

All that said nobody collects peace vams

Thanks for all that info on the 34d VAM.
I was curious about my coin not having the doubling on the obverse but maintaining the mispositioning of the m.m. on the reverse.

joeykoins

Number #4 is COMING!

This time a guaranteed BEAUTY!
A real crowd pleaser.

Stay Tuned, guys.
Thanks

Crypto

@joeykoins said:

@Crypto said:
There is a lot of mint mark diversity of 34d, the ones that matter are paired with the doubled Obv. You can still cherry a few Vam3s esp circulated but the Vam 4s dried up over a decade ago. I think they are underrated being redbook varieties that are the last naked eye double dies on the last silver dollar with actual naked eye variable Rev dies. Really the last of old school coin manufacturing with the Vam4 being not only legitimately scare but conditionally rare in UNC

All that said nobody collects peace vams

Thanks for all that info on the 34d VAM.
I was curious about my coin not having the doubling on the obverse but maintaining the mispositioning of the m.m. on the reverse.

Both the VAM 3 and vam 4 Rev dies are known without the doubled Obv. It appears the error Obv die made a full run. After studying the coins it appears there are EDS non doubled large D (only semi filled) >>>> then the doubled Obv got added and a large run was made before the swapped out the large D die for the small d high die. Then cracks appeared on the Doubled Obv die and it was swapped out for a normal looking Obv and a large run of the small Ds non-doubled Obv were made.

joeykoins

@Crypto said:

...it was swapped out for a normal looking Obv and a large run of the small Ds non-doubled Obv were made.

In which, what my coin appears to be, right? Thanks.

joeykoins

#4 is HERE!

AN Ebay purchase.
$129.50 Free Shipping too!

Should receive by Saturday?
My BEST Peace Dollar

Hopefully, no hits or dings? I'll take pictures later.
Thanks guys

Jzyskowski1

Very nice. I’m thinking about one of these Intaglio 1 oz peace dollars. At $50 it seems a good deal I got 1 2021 from the mint.

ChrisH821

$130 is a pretty good price I think. I heard some dealers asking $150 for these at the latest CSNS show.

MsMorrisine

I’d wait and get the 2oz peace

The diameter for the 1 oz is an odd size. 39mm is the standard 1 oz round diameter

The 2 ounce one is 39mm but thicker. There is an airtite product … X9D or something where D stands for Deep. I think they were originally made for the Queen’s beast 2 oz coins. There are airtites that are direct fit and ones with rings.

Lastly and most important, they charge a flat $6.xx or $8.zz something for shipping. Up goes the cost per oz.

Their waitlist signup feature does work if you choose to wait for the 2oz.

Jzyskowski1

I understand. I have the 2oz octagon panPac and I found an airtite for that. I love the heft of the 2 oz. I believe I will research some more. Thanks Ms.M. 😉 EBay got quite a few. Hard navigation on Intaglio website. Great advice as a 2ouncer will be $90-100 free shipping
Joey. I’m jealous because my 2021 has problems. 😉

joeykoins

@Jzyskowski1 said:

...I’m jealous because my 2021 has problems. 😉

Thanks, buddy. Yeah, sorry for the problems on your coin. This is the anxious part for me as well. Hoping I don't have any dreaded hits too. New to ebay buying.
If there is any unsightly hits on mine, can I return it?
Thanks

Jzyskowski1

eBay has what I feel is a very good return policy. Even if seller sez no returns. eBay got you covered. There can be problems but I try to check feedback and love that 100percent.

joeykoins

@MsMorrisine said:
Their waitlist signup feature does work if you choose to wait for the 2oz.

2 ounce like this one?

Mule
100 mintage #18

anablep

Good luck with your Peace dollar collection. They are fun to collect and easier than Morgan dollars, since there are only 24 in a date & MM set. I think over time you'll learn to be more selective with your purchases and then your assemblage will soar.

Here's one of my more recent Peace dollar purchases:

Jzyskowski1

@joeykoins said:

@MsMorrisine said:
Their waitlist signup feature does work if you choose to wait for the 2oz.

2 ounce like this one?

Mule
100 mintage #18

And this. But no. This one

joeykoins

@Jzyskowski1 said
And this. But no. This one

Beautiful 1921 2 Ouncer.