John Quincy Adams - Presidential Coin Collector!
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This thread is to share coins with the John Quincy Adams provenance.
As US Presidents go, I think he has one of the most amazing collections but that's mostly an assumption right now. I haven't seen too many of his coins, so I thought it'd be nice to have a thread for him.
Here's one to get us started. Please post any JQA coins and discussion here!
1648 Great Britain Siege of Pontefract - Shilling - 1648 - Charles I (1625-49) - PCGS EF-40 - Ex. John Quincy Adams; Massachusetts Historical Society
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Very nice.... With all my trips to the U.K., I have never come across one of those coins. I do not have any JQA coins. The shape is unique, is there a reason the design is not the usual 'round' shape?? Cheers, RickO
Good question! I'm not sure, but it's certainly distinctive. Stack's indicates some catalog numbers so it's worth looking it up!
@Zoins.... Thanks, I will try some research - seems as if there should be some justification for such a departure. Cheers, RickO
CoinFacts shows another shape
https://www.pcgs.com/valueview/shilling-1547-1661/1648-shil-s-3148/4863?sn=655438
OK... Now it is getting weird.... Cheers, RickO
Here's another coin from the collection of President John Quincy Adams.
42 BC Denarius - Rome Mint
provenance: President John Quincy Adams
Q. Antonius Balbus AR Serrate Denarius 83-82 B.C. Rome Mint Obv. Laureate head of Jupiter, S.C behind; R below chin. Rev. Victory in quadriga r., holding palm-branch and wreath In exergue Q.ANTO.BALB / PR deaccessioned from the Massachusetts Historical Society's John Q. Adams Collection in 1972
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I've been told that he is in my family tree. I think it would be cool to have something with his provenance on it!
It's a siege coin, so it was likely made in haste. The quicker the better. The need for any coinage superseded the need for round coinage.
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Very cool Jesse!
Here's some info on these:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_money_(Newark)
@Zoins ... Thanks for the further information.... Quite interesting. Cheers, RickO
It would be nice if P GS had put the pedigree on the label. Kind of an important omission, don't you think?
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It’s up to the submitter. Some submitters even ask for existing pedigrees to be removed so it’s harder to trace old prices among other things.
Would someone really want a Presidential Pedigree removed from the label?
How much value is lost when a decision like that is made?
Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
"Coin collecting for outcasts..."
I wouldn’t be surprised when provenances like James Stack and others are lost.
There was a discussion with Ron @BestGerman a while back.
But I personally agree with you. JQA is a great pedigree!
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