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Chinese counterfeit off-center 1922 cent

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 14,025 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Done and ditto for two other listings from the same seller.

    https://www.ebay.com/sch/ivkalc_13/m.html?item=304223864532&hash=item46d527c6d4:g:WWgAAOSwiOVhj5SB&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,416 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Good catch. I forgot to look at his other items.

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  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,169 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Another Chinese "fantasy coin"... sigh. :(

  • sellitstoresellitstore Posts: 3,002 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just like the NG off center 1955/55 cents.

    Key date off center fakes.

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  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,494 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Lincoln has a nice smile on the 1922.

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  • JimWJimW Posts: 564 ✭✭✭✭

    Failing to mention the VDB on the 09-S seems like a big red flag too.....

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,355 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yea, it’s “so rare” that the real thing could never look like that.

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,376 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here are the photos for posterity.

    At least it's not in the US yet.

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  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,174 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The 2's are so obvious. Good call. I know this has probably been listed before, but what is the procedure for contacting ebay in this regard. I've contacted the seller many times, but not much comes of that.
    Jim


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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,376 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jesbroken said:
    The 2's are so obvious. Good call. I know this has probably been listed before, but what is the procedure for contacting ebay in this regard. I've contacted the seller many times, but not much comes of that.
    Jim

    I use the "Report Item" link on the eBay page.

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 14,025 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The seller does indicate that the listings are replicas, but only at the very bottom of the listings. And the coins aren’t marked as such.

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  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,174 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I did use that, but it doesn't really have a counterfeit item list, only illegal actions, etc. I thought their might be a special number for counterfeit coins information. Guess not.
    Jim


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  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Zoins said:
    Here are the photos for posterity.

    i started doing my image comp as soon as i opened the thread, prior to seeing your post with pic.

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,376 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 13, 2021 1:02PM

    @MFeld said:
    The seller does indicate that the listings are replicas, but only at the very bottom of the listings. And the coins aren’t marked as such.

    It's in Palencia, Spain now. The Hobby Protection Act makes it illegal to import this in to the US without a COPY stamp, but what if someone from say the UK buys it from Spain?

    Does Spain or the EU have a law like the Hobby Protection Act?

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 14,025 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jesbroken said:
    I did use that, but it doesn't really have a counterfeit item list, only illegal actions, etc. I thought their might be a special number for counterfeit coins information. Guess not.
    Jim

    This is how I report counterfeits...
    Click on “Report Item”
    Under “Report Category”, select “Prohibited And Restricted Items”
    Under “Reason For Report”, near the bottom of the options, select “Stamps, Currency And Coins”
    Under “Detailed Reason”, select “Replica coins, replica paper money, and replica stamps”
    Click on the “Continue” tab and a “Brief Description” box opens up
    You can type a message there. I usually write “Counterfeit”. Sometimes I write “No genuine examples of this date were ever produced” or “Seller had this item listed previously and you ended the listing” or other.

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,376 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 13, 2021 1:11PM

    @MFeld said:

    @jesbroken said:
    I did use that, but it doesn't really have a counterfeit item list, only illegal actions, etc. I thought their might be a special number for counterfeit coins information. Guess not.
    Jim

    This is how I report counterfeits...
    Click on “Report Item”
    Under “Report Category”, select “Prohibited And Restricted Items”
    Under “Reason For Report”, near the bottom of the options, select “Stamps, Currency And Coins”
    Under “Detailed Reason”, select “Replica coins, replica paper money, and replica stamps”
    Click on the “Continue” tab and a “Brief Description” box opens up
    You can type a message there. I usually write “Counterfeit”. Sometimes I write “No genuine examples of this date were ever produced” or “Seller had this item listed previously and you ended the listing” or other.

    Great info. I've had to guess my way through this before too.

    This should be a pinned thread.

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  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,174 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks guys, I have always missed the Stamps, Currency and Coins selection. My bad.
    Jim


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