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Would you buy coins with a very attractive obverse but an unattractive reverse

Joey29Joey29 Posts: 458 ✭✭✭
edited November 8, 2021 2:57AM in U.S. Coin Forum

I usually never buy coins with an unappealing reverse even if I love the obverse. To me a coin has 2 sides even though the grading services weigh primarily the obverse and the eye tends to focus more on that obverse. I need to like the reverse as well. Opinions please. Post examples of such coins if you like in their holders.

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,376 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Joey29 said:
    Would you buy coins with a attractive obverse but an equally unattractive reverse

    Do TrueViews only show one side of the coin? ;)

  • I have gallery mint items with very attactive obverse, the reverse got "copy" on it.. :'(

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,169 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Avoid the uglies.

  • ZoidMeisterZoidMeister Posts: 3,120 ✭✭✭✭✭

    And then there's these . . . .

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,435 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I need to like both sides of a coin before I'll buy it.

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  • ZoidMeisterZoidMeister Posts: 3,120 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:
    If I'm making a belt buckle...

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    That's where it came from.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I evaluate the entire coin... and would avoid coins with an ugly side.... I would never say never, but offhand, cannot imagine buying ugly. Cheers, RickO

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,169 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Did it sticker? 😈

  • MeltdownMeltdown Posts: 8,880 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 8, 2021 6:17AM

    This is my best example - to be fair, I like the obverse too but it is not for everyone. The reverse is super clean and has crazy cartwheel luster.



  • david3142david3142 Posts: 3,568 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 8, 2021 6:41AM

    For toned coins, sure. I have a few where the reverse is just ok. I wouldn’t call any of them ugly but some are definitely neutral. For non-toned coins I need to like both but an amazing obverse (e.g cameo DMPL) can carry a mediocre reverse.

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  • TurtleCatTurtleCat Posts: 4,628 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Generally speaking, I have to like both sides in both design and preservation.

  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,468 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 8, 2021 7:06AM

    No

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  • DCWDCW Posts: 7,478 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's a good question. Sometimes with the rare stuff, you don't get much choice. Settle or you'll never own it.
    There was a banker in Massachusetts during the early 1900s that was a also a collector. He had the brilliant idea of gluing all sorts of Civil War tokens and merchant cards on his walls, some of which are considered very rare and possibly unique.
    He made sure to have someone polish them every morning so they looked nice for all the customers.
    Consequently, the apoxy on the reverses are the least of our concerns.
    At least that comes off with acetone.

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  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,827 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Every rainbow Morgan lover has to get around this one.

  • CatbertCatbert Posts: 7,378 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Avoid "but for" coins. They will always bother you after ownership and remain a "but for" coin for others when it comes time to sell.

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  • micotumicotu Posts: 58 ✭✭
    edited November 8, 2021 10:57AM

    I'm not a big fan of all the British commonwealth coins that have one really cool side but with Queen E's mug on the opposite. I'm sure engravers across the world are waiting for her to pass away. I also prefer the Peace's Obverse to the Morgan's. But prefer the Morgan's reverse. Anyone know a guy I can send one of each to to make me a mule coin?

  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,579 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would not buy a coin if I considered the reverse (or obverse) ugly. But these two come the closest, for both I really liked the obverse. The Rossie reverse is a bit bland, not ugly but not wow either. The Merc again not ugly but I am not a huge fan of the dark tone around the right rim. But in both cases because the obverse was interesting I bought them.


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  • Absolutely! But sometimes I'll shy away if the side that's ugly has the designation (like Full Bands), because why pay a premium for the side of the coin I don't like :D

  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,490 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not usually.

    Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍

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  • DCWDCW Posts: 7,478 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @micotu said:
    I also prefer the Peace's Obverse to the Morgan's. But prefer the Morgan's reverse. Anyone know a guy I can send one of each to to make me a mule coin?

    I think you just gave @dcarr his next big idea for a fantasy coin!

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  • Joey29Joey29 Posts: 458 ✭✭✭

    @coinbuf said:
    I would not buy a coin if I considered the reverse (or obverse) ugly. But these two come the closest, for both I really liked the obverse. The Rossie reverse is a bit bland, not ugly but not wow either. The Merc again not ugly but I am not a huge fan of the dark tone around the right rim. But in both cases because the obverse was interesting I bought them.


    Obverse is beautiful on these 2 coins. Reverse not bad. What is the grade on the Mercury dime. Would you ever consider selling it?

  • hummingbird_coinshummingbird_coins Posts: 1,228 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Joey29 said:

    @coinbuf said:
    I would not buy a coin if I considered the reverse (or obverse) ugly. But these two come the closest, for both I really liked the obverse. The Rossie reverse is a bit bland, not ugly but not wow either. The Merc again not ugly but I am not a huge fan of the dark tone around the right rim. But in both cases because the obverse was interesting I bought them.


    Obverse is beautiful on these 2 coins. Reverse not bad. What is the grade on the Mercury dime. Would you ever consider selling it?

    Why do all the new people ask if others will sell their coins to them? This is not the BST.

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  • Joey29Joey29 Posts: 458 ✭✭✭

    @hummingbird_coins said:

    @Joey29 said:

    @coinbuf said:
    I would not buy a coin if I considered the reverse (or obverse) ugly. But these two come the closest, for both I really liked the obverse. The Rossie reverse is a bit bland, not ugly but not wow either. The Merc again not ugly but I am not a huge fan of the dark tone around the right rim. But in both cases because the obverse was interesting I bought them.


    Obverse is beautiful on these 2 coins. Reverse not bad. What is the grade on the Mercury dime. Would you ever consider selling it?

    Why do all the new people ask if others will sell their coins to them? This is not the BST.

    I see other people posting items for sale in the forum, or posting coins needed as well. Didn’t know it was inappropriate and only confined to the BST section

  • ZoidMeisterZoidMeister Posts: 3,120 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DCW said:

    @micotu said:
    I also prefer the Peace's Obverse to the Morgan's. But prefer the Morgan's reverse. Anyone know a guy I can send one of each to to make me a mule coin?

    I think you just gave @dcarr his next big idea for a fantasy coin!

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    Interesting that @micotu and you should mention this.

    I actually own one . . . . . .

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  • oldabeintxoldabeintx Posts: 2,184 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If "unattractive" means ugly, then no. If "unattractive" includes so-so, then yes. Particularly on certain coins like early cents.

  • goldengolden Posts: 9,854 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No.

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,169 ✭✭✭✭✭

    But did it sticker ? ;)

  • david3142david3142 Posts: 3,568 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Let’s add a picture to add some specificity to this thread. This is one of those coins where the reverse isn’t helping but I don’t think it hurts the overall appeal (although it probably keeps it from a 67+).

  • mark_dakmark_dak Posts: 1,134 ✭✭✭✭✭


    Here's one where the reverse was the obverse in NGC's opinion. I never purchased toned coins but bought this on a whim. The reverse toning is better than it looks in the picture but I couldn't get past the "goatee" on Ms Liberty so I did sell it on eBay after I got it home and pondered it for a few weeks. I did OK on the sale but in the end decided she wasn't my type.

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  • Joey29Joey29 Posts: 458 ✭✭✭

    @mark_dak said:

    Here's one where the reverse was the obverse in NGC's opinion. I never purchased toned coins but bought this on a whim. The reverse toning is better than it looks in the picture but I couldn't get past the "goatee" on Ms Liberty so I did sell it on eBay after I got it home and pondered it for a few weeks. I did OK on the sale but in the end decided she wasn't my type.

    Mark

    I understand exactly. In some cases though the reverse can be as important as the obverse, although I don’t think the grading services necessarily agree. An example is the Buffalo nickel. There maybe some other series as well but I can’t think of it now, maybe some of you can.

  • mark_dakmark_dak Posts: 1,134 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Joey29 said:

    I understand exactly. In some cases though the reverse can be as important as the obverse, although I don’t think the grading services necessarily agree. An example is the Buffalo nickel. There maybe some other series as well but I can’t think of it now, maybe some of you can.

    If it hadn't been for the cheek and "goatee" I wouldn't have sold it but I just couldn't get past those areas. Coin toning was nicer than shown and nice enough for someone who usually purchases blast white examples only.

    I started with a low bid and let the eBay members decide if I would make a couple bucks or lose a few. I guess some like it because it got decent bidding action throughout the auction.

    Mark

  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,579 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Joey29 said:

    @hummingbird_coins said:

    @Joey29 said:

    @coinbuf said:
    I would not buy a coin if I considered the reverse (or obverse) ugly. But these two come the closest, for both I really liked the obverse. The Rossie reverse is a bit bland, not ugly but not wow either. The Merc again not ugly but I am not a huge fan of the dark tone around the right rim. But in both cases because the obverse was interesting I bought them.


    Obverse is beautiful on these 2 coins. Reverse not bad. What is the grade on the Mercury dime. Would you ever consider selling it?

    Why do all the new people ask if others will sell their coins to them? This is not the BST.

    I see other people posting items for sale in the forum, or posting coins needed as well. Didn’t know it was inappropriate and only confined to the BST section

    No worries, to answer your question no I would only sell it if I had found one I like better and I am not searching for a replacement.

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  • rec78rec78 Posts: 5,753 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Depends on rarity and price. If I have been looking a long time for one the ugly one may have to do, at least until and if I find a better example.

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  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,089 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Perhaps if it were a rare variety, but otherwise no.

  • mvs7mvs7 Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:
    If I'm making a belt buckle...

    I was thinking of a lucite-coated table top… similar solution.

  • PortrossPortross Posts: 85 ✭✭✭

    Sometimes a CAC sticker isn’t enough to make up for a disappointing reverse. This looked like a nice example for my Peace rattler set until I saw the second photo. There’s an S hidden in the muck.

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,435 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Portross said:
    Sometimes a CAC sticker isn’t enough to make up for a disappointing reverse. This looked like a nice example for my Peace rattler set until I saw the second photo. There’s an S hidden in the muck.

    I'll give CAC the benefit of the doubt and assume they forgot to look at the reverse. ;)

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  • Joey29Joey29 Posts: 458 ✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:

    @Portross said:
    Sometimes a CAC sticker isn’t enough to make up for a disappointing reverse. This looked like a nice example for my Peace rattler set until I saw the second photo. There’s an S hidden in the muck.

    I'll give CAC the benefit of the doubt and assume they forgot to look at the reverse. ;)

    Can’t understand how the reverse got so bad as it is usually the protected side of the coin

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,435 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Joey29 said:

    @PerryHall said:

    @Portross said:
    Sometimes a CAC sticker isn’t enough to make up for a disappointing reverse. This looked like a nice example for my Peace rattler set until I saw the second photo. There’s an S hidden in the muck.

    I'll give CAC the benefit of the doubt and assume they forgot to look at the reverse. ;)

    Can’t understand how the reverse got so bad as it is usually the protected side of the coin

    It was most likely laying face up in a box with a high sulfur content that reacted to the reverse side of the coin.

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  • RayboRaybo Posts: 5,331 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "Would you buy coins with a very attractive obverse but an unattractive reverse"

    Nope!

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