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Guess I'm a bit rusty... are all U.S. Mint silver coins now .999?

pcgs69pcgs69 Posts: 4,336 ✭✭✭✭

I had heard that silver proof sets started being .999 in 2019. Are the silver dollars .999 as well? Did that start in 2019?

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  • tincuptincup Posts: 5,240 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Have to admit I'm a little rusty on this also... it's been hard to keep up with the U.S. Mint's gimmicks in regards to it's issues....

    ----- kj
  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pcgs69 said:
    I had heard that silver proof sets started being .999 in 2019. Are the silver dollars .999 as well? Did that start in 2019?

    I believe that is correct. The new Morgan’s are.999 All the commemorative issues are, I believe. 🤠

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It currently appears they are... Not sure if that will become the permanent standard. Cheers, RickO

  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This is what the cert says.



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  • moursundmoursund Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pcgs69 said:
    I had heard that silver proof sets started being .999 in 2019. Are the silver dollars .999 as well? Did that start in 2019?

    Were they four nines before that?

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  • TurtleCatTurtleCat Posts: 4,628 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes, I think as of 2019 they all are.

  • Che_GrapesChe_Grapes Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This is all about the planchettes - the 999 (only 3, Canadians are 9999) and it turns out the 999 planchettes are easier to source than the 90% they used to use. Since money is not made from silver anymore, these 90% planchettes are no longer made in bulk. Likewise, with the popularity of silver rounds, these planchettes are actually more available and cheaper in bulk.
    There’s your lesson for the day from Mr Grapes.

  • P0CKETCHANGEP0CKETCHANGE Posts: 2,830 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 6, 2021 9:35AM

    @Che_Grapes said:
    This is all about the planchettes - the 999 (only 3, Canadians are 9999) and it turns out the 999 planchettes are easier to source than the 90% they used to use. Since money is not made from silver anymore, these 90% planchettes are no longer made in bulk. Likewise, with the popularity of silver rounds, these planchettes are actually more available and cheaper in bulk.
    There’s your lesson for the day from Mr Grapes.

    Only because you used the word four times, the correct spelling is "planchets". Planchettes are something entirely different, and do not have anything to do with coins.

    Nothing is as expensive as free money.

  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Am I detecting some spelling “sour grapes “ ? 😂

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  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’m a spelling teacher’s nightmare. This board can vouch for that. Lol 😂



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  • pcgs69pcgs69 Posts: 4,336 ✭✭✭✭

    @moursund said:

    @pcgs69 said:
    I had heard that silver proof sets started being .999 in 2019. Are the silver dollars .999 as well? Did that start in 2019?

    Were they four nines before that?

    They were 90% before the change

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,376 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 6, 2021 8:56PM

    @TurtleCat said:
    Yes, I think as of 2019 they all are.

    That's great! I'm looking forward to much more colorful toning :)

  • yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 4,862 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Type2 said:
    This is what the cert says.

    Silver eagles have been .999 since they started in 1986.
    The question is more about proof sets and commemoratives.

  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭

    🤯 brain fart.



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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,416 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not a gimmick. The U.S.Mints got rid of their capability to refine and alloy metal decades ago. For a long time they bought their .900 fine silver from various refineries, which had to keep their .900 scrap separate from their.999 scrap, and one by one they decided the work was not worth the bother. Perth Mint, Australia, was the last vendor doing it, and they did not want to do it any more.

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  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,892 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree with the above explanations (except the funky spelling of "planchet" :D ).

    90% would be very easy to make by adding 9 parts pure silver to one part copper, for example, but why bother at this point, since there are no circulating silver coins to produce.

    I always wondered if scrapping out silver coins will ever become complicated by this but I am sure it will sort itself out.

  • bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So after all of this yammer, are the 2021 Morgans and Peace 90% or 999 fine?

  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,892 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yammer says .999 B) .

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,718 ✭✭✭✭✭

    99.9

    And the comments are 99.9

    All that was 90% is now 99.9

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  • Che_GrapesChe_Grapes Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I will conveniently blame my spell checker ...!!

  • BStrauss3BStrauss3 Posts: 3,560 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Che_Grapes said:
    I will conveniently blame my spell checker ...!!

    It's a poor tool that blames the workman

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  • OnastoneOnastone Posts: 4,032 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Type2 said:
    I’m a spelling teacher’s nightmare. This board can vouch for that. Lol 😂

    Yet our highest grade in this collectors universe is a 70, the very same grade from a spelling teacher would be a C-

  • moursundmoursund Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Onastone said:

    @Type2 said:
    I’m a spelling teacher’s nightmare. This board can vouch for that. Lol 😂

    Yet our highest grade in this collectors universe is a 70, the very same grade from a spelling teacher would be a C-

    70 with gold bean?

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  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Is such a thing possible? 70 is top of the heap. Different degrees of the best. I just bet that there’s such a thing!🙃

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  • OnastoneOnastone Posts: 4,032 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yep, I forgot about the gold beans.
    I don't even have one of these.

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