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Unchartered Territory of a Numismatic Research Find

DrDarrylDrDarryl Posts: 626 ✭✭✭✭✭

Most collectors hunt for a new discovery; be it an error, variety, or hoard. I on the other hand hunt for information. This is a story of identifying an undocumented token. Obviously, the hunt was for a token of commerce from the images below.


One has to remember this research was completed through the internet of which the majority of the information came from the archives of a university, newspaper, and auction database. In other words, I was wearing my armchair numismatist researcher hat when I connected the dots.

A keyword search (guess the words) was performed and it yielded (Hawaii: location and business):

The hunt for additional commercial ads was performed which uncovered this.

Shifting from keywords searches, I moved to visual identification of the logo on the token.


As a result, a numismatic discovery was made in that the logo on the token matched dated advertisement and photographs.

In conclusion, the actual logo from a 1935 advertisement provided the year of first use (this is high probability estimate).

Hopefully, the individuals who are currently updating the 1991 book titled: Hawaiian Money: Standard Catalog "Second Edition" will add this token to the Dairy Token section. Imagine that, a Territory of Hawaii and a pre-WWII token.

This is the actual image of the discovery token. I did not mention how I connected Hawaii. an eBay seller who periodically sells Hawaii numismatic items listed this questionable specimen. The token shown in the above images was from a seller in the mid-west US.

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  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,892 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I haven't gotten past the thread title yet...

    "Unchartered" should be "uncharted".

    ;):D

  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,111 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice research. I'd bet @alohagary knows about this business. Peace Roy

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well researched and should be added to the new edition. Cheers, RickO

  • The_Dinosaur_ManThe_Dinosaur_Man Posts: 998 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This is a fantastic read. I wonder what the population count of that token might be.

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,416 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Excellent research! So why are the men on the token wearing "halos?"

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  • sumduncesumdunce Posts: 1,247 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 6, 2021 6:30AM

    @CaptHenway said:
    Excellent research! So why are the men on the token wearing "halos?"

    Holding large spoons, maybe?

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,435 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's a great post and your research was really thorough. B)

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,694 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice job 🙂

  • DrDarrylDrDarryl Posts: 626 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Another arm chair numismatic research example.

    The National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) fulfilled my order request for copies of records relating to a specific type of US Mint medals manufactured for President Eisenhower.

    At the time I did not have an image nor a specimen which I could study or review. I then created renditions based on the description from the NARA records. I was brainstorming how to get an actual image. These medals had three types of custom engravings. Then I had a eureka moment. The custom engravings were personalized to include the name of the recipient. I was studying the names on the list of awardees. Then the connection was made, Vice-President Richard M. Nixon was an awardee. I located the website of the Richard M. Nixon Presidential Library & Museum, and sent an inquiring email with a draft copy of my research findings and renditions.

    A few days later I received a reply. Included were images of the medal and its special holder. Their reply thanked me as the medal was a total mystery to them. They indicated that my draft research paper would be placed with the medal as it describes the historic nature of the medal. The medal was a type of appreciation medal from President Eisenhower to his Vice-President.

    In my reply, I thank them for the images and promised to send a copy of my book after it was published, and they can have a permanent record of the medal in a book. Here are draft samples of the newly revised write-up for my third book.

    One has to remember these medals has never been cataloged until my first book in 2014. Is this not a numismatic discovery of previously unknown numismatic information? And the numismatic information is a firehose flow of previously unknown information? My rendition is almost spot on!

  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,892 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great! I love that the stand is made from recovered White House wood.

    I was a bit confused at first my the picture of the obverse and reverse as the reverse seems to be sort I'd an "artist's rendition" or mock-up of the RN medal. But the library's photos are very well done.

  • CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,632 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Lots of work remaining to be done on 20th U.S. Mint medals. Nice job here.

  • Mr_SpudMr_Spud Posts: 5,864 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cool 🪙

    Mr_Spud

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