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1864 Two Cents, Small Motto: Post a Better (or Worse!) Example.

This is part of a consigned collection to be offered at auction next month. What do you guys think?

And yes, post your examples of the variety!

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  • RayboRaybo Posts: 5,331 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Are you sure it's a SM?

  • CryptoCrypto Posts: 3,740 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That’s like what 5$ to the right buyer

  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,494 ✭✭✭✭✭

    HMMMM............Carriage Lot find?

    Pete

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  • The_Dinosaur_ManThe_Dinosaur_Man Posts: 998 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Raybo said:
    Are you sure it's a SM?

    Absolutely! Compare the font and size of the remaining letters of "Trust" to non-damaged examples of the Large and Small Mottos.

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  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 1, 2021 9:32PM

    I admit I have not seen a worse example! :D

  • ShaunBC5ShaunBC5 Posts: 1,744 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The example is better. The picture is much worse. Trust me on it being a small motto. I even wrote it on both sides of the 2x2 :wink:
    Bought it before I knew about lg and sm mottos. I was so excited when I realized what I had so tried to convince myself my other 1864 was one, too (it’s not).

  • skier07skier07 Posts: 4,076 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well, it’s worth at least two cents.

  • TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Raybo said:
    Are you sure it's a SM?

    yes, it is

    Frank

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Even if it is a small motto, it would not be a coin I would consider. The damage is excessive, ugly and unacceptable. Cheers, RickO

  • AlexinPAAlexinPA Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Large Motto - Small Motto??? Don't know and don't really care...........

  • yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 4,862 ✭✭✭✭✭


    You can attribute it from the leaf length under IN also.

  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,239 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like it.
    Where can I locate it so as to bid next month?

    peacockcoins

  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,239 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2, 2021 5:16PM

    Perhaps PCGS won't grade it because of the active verdigris?

    peacockcoins

  • WinLoseWinWinLoseWin Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sold this beauty in 2012 to a dealer for $35.00

    Not sure which one I like better.

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  • bearcavebearcave Posts: 3,996 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ken
  • winestevenwinesteven Posts: 4,685 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2, 2021 10:28PM

    OK, here’s mine, a nice one:

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  • JWPJWP Posts: 23,926 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The 1st 2 cent piece - the ugly one, can not tell from the poor picture if it has 3 /4 feathers on yhr top side of the right arrow. 4 - SM. With a closer view the 4th feather might be seen.

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  • yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 4,862 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 4, 2021 3:54AM

    @JWP said:
    The 1st 2 cent piece - the ugly one, can not tell from the poor picture if it has 3 /4 feathers on yhr top side of the right arrow. 4 - SM. With a closer view the 4th feather might be seen.


    The simpler marker is in the photo I posted.
    Look for 2 long leaves at the left arrow (near N of IN GOD).
    It has them.
    The Large Motto has a short leaf on top, instead of 2 long leaves.

    Maybe the middle photo in my array is confusing. It is of a different coin, that was posted a few years ago.

  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,347 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I believe it's a Large Motto.

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