Is this the same proof $2.5 Gold Indian Quarter Eagle?
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Obviously not the same coin
I’m not up on fake NGC slabs. Are there tells to this slab?
Looks like it could be the same coin to me. Why are you confident it’s not?
Case in point. Very few marks to go by, but this one is identical. Be very careful making accusations if you are not confident.
I was looking at the marks on the tip of the nose vs none
Doesn't look like same coin to me. There is a significant contact mark in the number zero on the Ebay coin that doesn't show in the Heritage photo.
A mark in front of the chin vs not
Not every mark shows up in every picture. Lighting, etc can hide things. But the one mark is visible in both pictures and looks identical. The coin looks real, the holder looks real, etc. I’m not sure why this auction should be reported. It’s not like he is using heritage pictures at the same time heritage has the coin. It’s his pictures of what looks like the same coin after the heritage sale is over.
I'm familiar with things getting lost depending on lighting but the mark in the zero would be tough to pass off as an issue with lighting. It's pretty significant in the Ebay photo and doesn't show at all in the Heritage photo.
Hmm, I see that now. His bad cell phone shots make it hard to tell for sure (for me). I can’t get over the identical mark though. I asked him if he could provide better shots of the date. Let’s see if he responds.
I didn't think it was the same coin due to what appears to be contact marks in the eBay photos. I guess it's possible that it's bad photo/lighting.
Too hard to tell.. the Ebay photos are 15+ years old or taken from a really old camera. Considering the seller has been on Ebay since 2002 with that account I doubt he's scamming people. If you were dishonest you'd just create a new profile and not risk your account with 20+ years of Ebay karma/reviews
Possibly, unless the account was hacked, or he honestly believes it is legitimate because it was sold to him by a dishonest individual. I've updated the title of the post since the jury is still out. I've also reached out to the seller to see if they could provide additional photos.
But those marks virtually disappear in the other heritage picture (see below). These coins are tiny, and any marks you see on the very detailed picture would be almost impossible to see with the naked eye, much less a crappy cell phone picture.
Can someone explain where the mystery is here? The cert number is the same on both eBay and heritage photos. I’ve always thought the cert numbers were unique, Is that not the case? Both have 3719402-003 on the slab.
Are we questioning that the coin was swapped out of the slab? Because in that case I would say no. They appear to be the same coin based on the pictures, and there’s not enough to show otherwise.
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The coins look identical in most respects, and the minor differences could be lighting/photography. JMO...Cheers, RickO
It's the same coin .
Some toning and light contact marks can seem to disappear under different lighting . Very few marks to go by as previously said .
The guy seems to be a legit ebay seller with proven history and fairly recent transactions .
No way out there stories on how item was acquired , pictures with a contact email or phone # offering off site great deal , suspicious preferred payment methods . Seller knows what he has and the ball park figure value . They are letting you know in description .
BTW- There will be no smoking deal here for reasons i stated . He will have a friend/family place a bid at some point to make sure of that . If you see it sold for too cheap , it didn't . He bought it back through someone known .
Welcome to Ebay .
It’s the same coin, but it’s interesting that the seller has no other coins listed, or sold in the past 30 days. Also, note this bit on top of the eagle’s head in the HA photo, where did it go?
They are the same coin. Just look at the certification number.
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It might just be a speck of dust that was on the surface of the slab during the HA picture.
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That spot is not on the other Heritage picture though. So yeah, possibly it was on the slab for one of the pictures?