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"Where is the buyer's brain?"

rec78rec78 Posts: 5,691 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited October 17, 2021 3:34PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Post an eBay coin auction that makes you ask "Where is the buyer's brain".


https://www.ebay.com/itm/255098350384?hash=item3b650beb30:g:EbAAAOSwvb1hHQPc
Seller Notes:
“These are not necessarily improperly annealed planchettes, but the color change and toning would indicate that but I am not a grading service so I cannot represent that. BUT these coin(s) are UNIQUE and INTERESTING, and the only warranty I will give is that they are genuine US coins pulled from circulation, the discoloration is not dirt, it is not paint, it is in the metal. I also represent that I did nothing to alter these coins. I found them, made sure it wasnt dirt on them, snapped a pic and here we are.”

Black Beauty half Dollar. They are often also called toned coins.

These are Unique and valuable because of the color change which is in the metal, not on the surface (dirt).

You may even discover that these are clad layer errors or improperly annealed planchettes, but I cannot make that determination, you'd have to get them graded.

These were coins pulled from circulation. They are listed here because their color change make them interesting. Who’s to say if these are error coins, I am not making that claim. I am claiming that this discoloration is not dirt, it’s in the metal, and I have not altered these coins with the rare exception of wiping a little dirt off them to determine their true state.

You won’t find another quite like this, good luck!!

I offer free economy shipping !!

I offer 30 money back returns

I have several other items similar to this one, I appreciate your consideration

This seller has sold a lot of these environmentally damaged coins. This is both sad and funny. Funny explanation, but sad that some new collector will fall for this jibberesh and actually buy these. The coin is worth exactly 50 cents-not a penny more. $5.95 ??

Post "Where is the Buyer's Brain" eBay auctions.

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    SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,261 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What brain?

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    nwcoastnwcoast Posts: 2,845 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 17, 2021 3:55PM

    Maybe there’s a blossoming interest in collecting environmentally damaged coins.
    If not, perhaps the seller is hoping to ignite a new passion in the collecting public?
    Things ARE rather frothy!
    In these crazy times, nothing would surprise me anymore.
    The vision I carry in my mind as to what may have caused a coin to look like this are not pleasant.
    I guess that’s what happens when one spends most of their life working in health care ;-)
    Not my cup of tea, but to each their own.

    Happy, humble, honored and proud recipient of the “You Suck” award 10/22/2014

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    MasonGMasonG Posts: 6,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    People buy stuff that I wouldn't all the time. I don't know about making fun of them because they do but then, that's just me.

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    Steven59Steven59 Posts: 8,294 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So in the Auction title is " Improperly Annealed Error "
    But then in the description he states: "These are not necessarily improperly annealed planchettes,"
    Sometime ya gotta just shake your head!

    "When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"

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    rec78rec78 Posts: 5,691 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here is another one.

    [1989 P Jefferson Nickle Error "BLACK BEAUTY" (Improperly Annealed Planchet)](1989 P Jefferson Nickle Error "BLACK BEAUTY" (Improperly Annealed Planchet))

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/373628906284?hash=item56fe04ab2c:g:Cw4AAOSw7lhg16e7&nma=true&si=VA6DXGPYjZcqHnoIaKtU3bMq6YY%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

    This is not an annealed planchet. It is just an environmentally damaged coin. $5.99?

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    rec78rec78 Posts: 5,691 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MasonG said:
    People buy stuff that I wouldn't all the time. I don't know about making fun of them because they do but then, that's just me.

    My point sir, is misrepresentation. The coins are not as described. Newbe buys these because they believe the auction listing and gets skunked and leaves the hobby.

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    HoldTheMayoHoldTheMayo Posts: 120 ✭✭✭

    @rec78 It sold for $5, what’s your issue? Waste of a post IMO.

    Maybe they are new to dipping and wanted to experiment on cheap toned coins. Just because it sold doesn’t mean someone liked it. There could be a million reasons.
    Jumping to a lot of conclusions here

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    koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 17, 2021 5:10PM

    The buyer's brain is absent. Bidiots one and all.

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    MasonGMasonG Posts: 6,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 17, 2021 4:25PM

    @rec78 said:
    My point sir, is misrepresentation. The coins are not as described. Newbe buys these because they believe the auction listing and gets skunked and leaves the hobby.

    The seller says "I found this in circulation and don't know what it is". Nobody who reads the description is deceived.

    What the seller claims:

    "the only warranty I will give is that they are genuine US coins pulled from circulation, the discoloration is not dirt, it is not paint, it is in the metal."

    Seems pretty clear to me.

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    MasonGMasonG Posts: 6,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @rec78 said:
    Newbe buys these because they believe the auction listing and gets skunked and leaves the hobby.

    What happens when that newbie comes here to post about his purchase and sees a thread started to make fun of him?

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 12,056 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 17, 2021 5:45PM

    @rec78 said:

    @MasonG said:
    People buy stuff that I wouldn't all the time. I don't know about making fun of them because they do but then, that's just me.

    My point sir, is misrepresentation. The coins are not as described. Newbe buys these because they believe the auction listing and gets skunked and leaves the hobby.

    If your point was misrepresentation and coins not being as described, why’ have a thread title of “Where is the buyer's brain?" and why post Post "Where is the Buyer's Brain" eBay auctions.“? That doesn’t make sense to me.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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    CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 7,946 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don’t know but the guy sounds honest enough. Not every one in this hobby is fast tracked to the set registry. In other words not everyone is an expert or even trying to be.
    And if the guy can’t make a honest buck or two to help support his hobby/addiction :-) then I think that would run someone out of the hobby quicker than the buyer that would have allegedly gotten burned.
    That guy never makes it anyway.

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    davewesendavewesen Posts: 5,868 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Little more than bullion.

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    rec78rec78 Posts: 5,691 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MasonG said:

    @rec78 said:
    Newbe buys these because they believe the auction listing and gets skunked and leaves the hobby.

    What happens when that newbie comes here to post about his purchase and sees a thread started to make fun of him?

    He learns something.

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    koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If he wants to.

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    rec78rec78 Posts: 5,691 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @rec78 said:

    @MasonG said:
    People buy stuff that I wouldn't all the time. I don't know about making fun of them because they do but then, that's just me.

    My point sir, is misrepresentation. The coins are not as described. Newbe buys these because they believe the auction listing and gets skunked and leaves the hobby.

    If your point was misrepresentation and coins not being as described, why’ have a thread title of “Where is the buyer's brain?" and why post Post "Where is the Buyer's Brain" eBay auctions.“? That doesn’t make sense to me.

    Selling coins that are environmentally damaged as annealed planchet coins is the same thing as selling counterfeit coins to me. There may be people that want to pay a lot of money for counterfeit coins also, maybe they want to collect them. So why take them down because they are counterfeits? Using deceitful descriptions like this is meant to deceive people into thinking that they are getting something of value.

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 12,056 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 18, 2021 2:40AM

    @rec78 said:

    @MFeld said:

    @rec78 said:

    @MasonG said:
    People buy stuff that I wouldn't all the time. I don't know about making fun of them because they do but then, that's just me.

    My point sir, is misrepresentation. The coins are not as described. Newbe buys these because they believe the auction listing and gets skunked and leaves the hobby.

    If your point was misrepresentation and coins not being as described, why’ have a thread title of “Where is the buyer's brain?" and why post Post "Where is the Buyer's Brain" eBay auctions.“? That doesn’t make sense to me.

    Selling coins that are environmentally damaged as annealed planchet coins is the same thing as selling counterfeit coins to me. There may be people that want to pay a lot of money for counterfeit coins also, maybe they want to collect them. So why take them down because they are counterfeits? Using deceitful descriptions like this is meant to deceive people into thinking that they are getting something of value.

    I’m strongly against sellers who offer counterfeits and make misrepresentations of other types. But your thoughts about such sellers doesn’t account for a thread about BUYERS without brains.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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    TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    142 Dummies.

    Who probably googled Special Mint Sets, and figured they'd make a fortune

    Frank

    BHNC #203

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 12,056 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @HashTag said:

    @MFeld said:

    AT 4:36 A.M,!
    Mark you know I work nights but you have a day job! Maybe it’s too much HBO or close to Halloween but your starting to scare me.
    Also I just won a 1834 $5 at the Long Beach Expo (HA week after show). Are y’all (HA) still accepting appointments for pick up and I need your opinion on 8 coins I’d like to send to CAC.

    BOO!
    David
    TX

    Edited to add: Mark I’ll contact you at work as I’ve realized the message boards aren’t for me.

    Yes, David, we're accepting appointments for pickups and I'll be happy to provide opinions on your coins.

    Halloween or otherwise, don't be scared - I'm just a morning person. ;)

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a bunch of sales hype that includes an honest statement.... Much like selling used cars...Cheers, RickO

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