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I just received my first USPS damaged package..........

bearcavebearcave Posts: 3,996 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited October 16, 2021 11:34AM in U.S. Coin Forum


I have had good luck with postal service until now. The coin did NOT make it but the package did.

Ken

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,493 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I hope the insurance claim will be problem free even though it’s not a coin

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  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 8,957 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Jeez, they did a number on that package. Yikes! :#

    "When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"

  • JMS1223JMS1223 Posts: 1,105 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That’s scary. I hope it wasn’t a valuable coin.

  • bearcavebearcave Posts: 3,996 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JMS1223 said:
    That’s scary. I hope it wasn’t a valuable coin.

    Just a $40 Morgan. I'll see what USPS says about it tomorrow.

    Ken
  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,147 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 16, 2021 12:00PM

    with an ebay sale, it's the seller's problem. If seller won't refund you after you show him the proof, simply file a "not received" claim. Since tracking will show the package delivered you might have to go the "not as described" route. Seller has to work it out with the PO (if he in fact insured the shipment) and he will be depending on you to help him support the claim.

    I personally prefer my sellers to not use a package that is marked "ebay."

    Repetition of ignorance is ignorance raised to the power two.

  • bearcavebearcave Posts: 3,996 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like the way you talk @derryb ! I sent the seller the same thing I put on here.

    Ken
  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,147 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 16, 2021 12:12PM

    If seller tells you to wait till he gets the USPS insurance claim, go the "item not as described" route. Whether or not he had insurance or gets to file a claim is irrelevant to you since ebay protection says "you get the item or we get you the refund."

    I personally believe that packages acknowledged by USPS to be damaged/opened while in transit should be returned to the seller.

    Your pics indicate that package may have been damaged rather than pilfered.

    Repetition of ignorance is ignorance raised to the power two.

  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    While not as bad. Why is it that “do not bend” is the kiss of death. New sheets of stamps. Different hobby,sorry I sure hope they fix this. Here’s a picture from yesterday’s mail.😂

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,493 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Doesn’t priority come with $50?

    I was looking to see if it is priority and noticed the weight was set at 0 pounds 1 ounce

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  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,147 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MsMorrisine said:
    Doesn’t priority come with $50?

    I was looking to see if it is priority and noticed the weight was set at 0 pounds 1 ounce

    The "F" on the label indicates First Class. Priority gets a "P."

    Repetition of ignorance is ignorance raised to the power two.

  • bearcavebearcave Posts: 3,996 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 16, 2021 2:17PM

    Yes it was sent 1st class. And he charged $3.50 for shipping.

    Ken
  • MasonGMasonG Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bearcave said:
    Yes it was sent 1st class. And he charged $3.50 for shipping.

    First class shipping prices for a 1 ounce bubble envelope:
    Retail: $4.30 to $4.75
    Discount if purchased through eBay: $3.31 to $3.79

    So if he printed the label through eBay and shipped from the same zone where you live, he made all of 19 cents on the deal. If you live on the other side of the country, he paid more for shipping than he charged you.

  • jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,211 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ask for a refund. If he refuses or tells you to wait for the usps claim, file item not as described claim. It’s an easy win for you with those pictures.

  • tommy44tommy44 Posts: 2,297 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MasonG said:

    @bearcave said:
    Yes it was sent 1st class. And he charged $3.50 for shipping.

    First class shipping prices for a 1 ounce bubble envelope:
    Retail: $4.30 to $4.75
    Discount if purchased through eBay: $3.31 to $3.79

    So if he printed the label through eBay and shipped from the same zone where you live, he made all of 19 cents on the deal. If you live on the other side of the country, he paid more for shipping than he charged you.

    -plus the cost of the mailer
    -plus the cost of the label
    -plus eBay final value fees on the $3.50 shipping charge

    it's crackers to slip a rozzer the dropsy in snide

  • privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,488 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @tommy44 said:

    @MasonG said:

    @bearcave said:
    Yes it was sent 1st class. And he charged $3.50 for shipping.

    First class shipping prices for a 1 ounce bubble envelope:
    Retail: $4.30 to $4.75
    Discount if purchased through eBay: $3.31 to $3.79

    So if he printed the label through eBay and shipped from the same zone where you live, he made all of 19 cents on the deal. If you live on the other side of the country, he paid more for shipping than he charged you.

    -plus the cost of the mailer
    -plus the cost of the label
    -plus eBay final value fees on the $3.50 shipping charge

    And tape....

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  • MasonGMasonG Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jwitten said:
    Ask for a refund.

    Seller: "Sure, no problem. Send the coin back. Once I've received it, I'll refund your payment."

  • Larrob37Larrob37 Posts: 218 ✭✭✭

    I thought you said coin was lost or did not make it. How you going to send the coin back. Maybe just the envelope.

  • MasonGMasonG Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Larrob37 said:
    I thought you said coin was lost or did not make it. How you going to send the coin back. Maybe just the envelope.

    You're right, he did say the coin didn't make it. In order for the seller to file a claim, the buyer will need to provide the post office with the packaging as received.

  • bearcavebearcave Posts: 3,996 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 16, 2021 6:20PM

    @MasonG said:

    @bearcave said:
    Yes it was sent 1st class. And he charged $3.50 for shipping.

    First class shipping prices for a 1 ounce bubble envelope:
    Retail: $4.30 to $4.75
    Discount if purchased through eBay: $3.31 to $3.79

    So if he printed the label through eBay and shipped from the same zone where you live, he made all of 19 cents on the deal. If you live on the other side of the country, he paid more for shipping than he charged you.

    I don't know why you want to be on Ebay then, .58 for a 1st class stamp. I don't know about the other stuff as he going to have to have it if he is going to be on Ebay. Don't be on Ebay then if you don't want to sell things.

    Ken
  • MasonGMasonG Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bearcave said:
    I don't know why you want to be on Ebay then, .58 for a 1st class stamp. I don't know about the other stuff as he going to have to have it if he is going to be on Ebay. Don't be on Ebay then if you don't want to sell things.

    Not really sure of the point you're trying to make, but $3.50 for shipping is a reasonable charge.

  • vulcanizevulcanize Posts: 1,408 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have received it in similar fashion - package from eBay last year - but since the coin reached me it is all good I guess.

  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,743 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MasonG said:

    @bearcave said:
    I don't know why you want to be on Ebay then, .58 for a 1st class stamp. I don't know about the other stuff as he going to have to have it if he is going to be on Ebay. Don't be on Ebay then if you don't want to sell things.

    Not really sure of the point you're trying to make, but $3.50 for shipping is a reasonable charge.

    More than reasonable.



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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow... that package looks as if it were caught in the conveyor system... Too bad about the loss of the coin. Let us know how things work out. Cheers, RickO

  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,147 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The best ebay rule of them all: "Item belongs to seller until delivered to buyer."

    Repetition of ignorance is ignorance raised to the power two.

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,356 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @derryb said:
    The best ebay rule of them all: "Item belongs to seller until delivered to buyer."

    Yup. It's the responsibility of the seller to securely package the merchandise and to fully insure the package.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • MarkKelleyMarkKelley Posts: 1,905 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I ask for $4.00 shipping and some folks still complain. I'm certainly not getting rich from it.

  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like free shipping and look for it. However, it does not play a big factor, if I want the coin. That said, I compute shipping into the price. I should not but can’t help myself 🤠

    🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶

  • MasonGMasonG Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A bubble envelope is a secure package for shipping coins. I've sent over 20,000 of them and if any were damaged, the buyer never mentioned it.

  • ModwriterModwriter Posts: 330 ✭✭✭

    I now mail my 2x2 raw coins in a plain, standard #10 envelope, paint taped to a tri-folded sheet of 110# index heavy paper. Swtiched from using small bubble mailer envelopes after a customer claimed he did not receive his coin and another had to pay $3.29 extra postage. Refunded both customers. So far no problems. For slabbed coins, I always use the USPS Priority small flat rate box that costs $7.45 postage that includes up to $200 insurance. I order the small flat rate boxes for free from the USPS website.

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