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1918-D Buffalo------Legit? I say no

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  • hummingbird_coinshummingbird_coins Posts: 1,228 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think 50/50 real or fake

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  • hummingbird_coinshummingbird_coins Posts: 1,228 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I changed my mind, I think it is real. I would grade it an AU55.

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 14,027 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @hummingbird_coins said:
    I changed my mind, I think it is real. I would grade it an AU55.

    Look, in particular, at the 8 in the date and compare it to others.

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  • hummingbird_coinshummingbird_coins Posts: 1,228 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @hummingbird_coins said:
    I changed my mind, I think it is real. I would grade it an AU55.

    Look, in particular, at the 8 in the date and compare it to others.

    I noticed that. I also noticed the odd texture around the date. I am okay at grading, but I am not good at authentication... yet

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,698 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @hummingbird_coins said:
    I changed my mind, I think it is real. I would grade it an AU55.

    Look, in particular, at the 8 in the date and compare it to others.

    That whole date and area bothers me, it looks off

  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,552 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The coin and mm are real…..the date is another story.

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  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,494 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 14, 2021 11:08AM

    Here's a good pic for evaluation:

    It has been altered. Look at where the designer initial "F" is located in relation to the 8 in the date on both images.

    They don"t match up.

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  • Picker1954Picker1954 Posts: 183 ✭✭✭

    If you look at the neck of the Indian you will see the die markers for a 1937-D 3 leg. The V shaped mark by the braid and the lumps on the neck. This pic is from a coin I had.

  • AMRCAMRC Posts: 4,280 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Isn't this why PCGS and NGC were invented? Looks fine to me.

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  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 8,169 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think it's fake... the date font doesn't look right and "five cents" on the reverse looks odd too.

    I know the stock answer will be "because they can" but why would someone go to all the trouble of making dies for a passable 5 cent piece? Going under the radar??

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  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 9,077 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lkenefic said:

    [I know the stock answer will be "because they can" but why would someone go to all the trouble of making dies for a passable 5 cent piece? Going under the radar??]

    Don't say that to Henning! :)

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  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    after looking at (18-p first accidentally) tons of CF examples, not 1 single example had the F under the 1 in the date. 100% countrerfeit.

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  • OmegaraptorOmegaraptor Posts: 541 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Date area is completely borked. I have never seen that on a genuine Buffalo Nickel.

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  • LRCTomLRCTom Posts: 857 ✭✭✭

    Agreed that the date is totally wrong, but how would that have been done? Very strange.

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  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 13,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 14, 2021 5:48PM

    Look at Liberty on the real deal here and compare it to the OP’s coin. I wouldn’t buy that coin with your money😜

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  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't like it. I'd stay far away.

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,718 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @crazyhounddog said:
    Look at Liberty on the real deal here and compare it to the OP’s coin. I wouldn’t buy that coin with your money😜

    Look at the pointed nose

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  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,174 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That coin appears to me to be a total counterfeit, not one that has been altered, but counterfeit. I just don't understand why, I mean at least make it appear to be an 8/7 and for goodness sakes, put the F where it belongs. If I'm wrong I will be totally confused.
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks fake to me... for all the reasons noted above....Plus, when I first viewed it, even before looking at details, my impression was "That don't look right."... Go with 'gut feel'... Usually right. Cheers, RickO

  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 8,703 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It is definitely a modern replica.

  • cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 7,928 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 15, 2021 7:29AM

    The whole coin is bad. As others have said the date and F placement are completely wrong. Also note the 'tool marks' (Per Fivaz's gold counterfeit book) below the date and in the field that runs into the Indian's upper lip, and the blurry appearance of 'LIBERTY'.

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