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Broken reverse die 1843 Seated Liberty dime, is this listed as a variety anywhere, Thanks in advance

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have no answer to your question... However, if you need a name for the coin... I would call it the 'Pizza Pie' coin... ;) Cheers, RickO

  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Its a Half dime not a dime.

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  • RichieURichRichieURich Posts: 8,514 ✭✭✭✭✭

    These die cracks were described by Al Blythe in his "The Complete Guide to Liberty Seated Half Dimes". No value indicated. I haven't seen this before. There are a lot of die cracks in 1843 half dollars, as well.

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  • CaptainBluntCaptainBlunt Posts: 199 ✭✭✭

    There was an old small thread about these coins on this board circa 2014
    entitled just how many different 1843 shattered reverse half dimes are there

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,698 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's pretty cool

  • yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 4,862 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 14, 2021 7:58PM

    You have an 1843 V-7a half dime.
    It is the scarcer of the two shattered reverses for 1843.
    It is #35 in the "Top 100" Seated Half Dime Variety list.
    https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1035720/top-100-seated-half-dime-varieties-list-and-112-page-pdf

    There is also an 1843 half dime attribution guide at:
    https://sites.google.com/view/clintcummins/half-dime-attribution-guide
    where the V-7 designation is shown, along with a roster of known examples, plus the earlier die state with just one crack.

    Stephen Crain @MrHalfDime wrote a good article on the 1843 shattered reverses:
    "The 1843 Shattered Reverse Half Dimes", Gobrecht Journal #122 (2015).
    He had 7 of the V-7a in his reference collection (you can see them in the link in @Coinosaurus's post).
    This variety was first published in the Gobrecht Journal in 1976; it was not in Valentine's 1931 monograph.

    I like this variety, especially with how the reverse die surface was at 2 different levels at the crack through
    LF of HALF and M of AMERICA.

  • TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Technically, not a variety

    It is a die state.

    Or correct me if I am wrong.

    Frank

    BHNC #203

  • yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 4,862 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 15, 2021 2:31PM

    I consider die states to be varieties.
    (Just my terminology, nothing wrong with yours).
    What you call a variety is already covered by the term "die marriage".
    I think of "die state" as nesting within die marriage.
    So when I say "die states", I am referring to states within one particular die marriage,
    not all die states across all die marriages.
    And I use "variety" as anything that is different from the dies,
    so it covers all die states across all die marriages.

    This die marriage in particular is not known without die cracks.
    There is an earlier die state that I call V-7 which only has the vertical die crack, and not the horizontal cracks.

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