Home› U.S. Coin Forum

Guess the grade,,,,,,, Franklin Half Dollar--- LARGE Reverse Photo Posted

GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,602 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited October 13, 2021 11:27PM in U.S. Coin Forum

I just received grades on this coin,,,,,, the cert is not active so you can't cheat. ;)

Is it FBL? Yes or No.

So guess the grade,,,,, it is straight graded and not in a genuine slab.

GrandAm :)

Comments

  • Mr_SpudMr_Spud Posts: 5,864 ✭✭✭✭✭

    67

    Mr_Spud

  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,806 ✭✭✭✭✭

    67 no FBL

    bob :)

    Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a lock 7 from the images, but grading has been very tight lately IMO so I'll say they inexplicably gave you a 66.

  • Joey29Joey29 Posts: 458 ✭✭✭

    @GRANDAM said:
    I just received grades on this coin,,,,,, the cert is not active so you can't cheat. ;)

    Is it FBL? Yes or No.

    So guess the grade,,,,, it is straight graded and not in a genuine slab.

    What do you mean by not in a genuine slab?

  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,477 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Joey29 said:

    @GRANDAM said:
    I just received grades on this coin,,,,,, the cert is not active so you can't cheat. ;)

    Is it FBL? Yes or No.

    So guess the grade,,,,, it is straight graded and not in a genuine slab.

    What do you mean by not in a genuine slab?

    Exactly what he wrote...it was graded and it was not put in a "genuine" slab (ie...a "problem" slab where they state they wouldn't give it a real grade due to cleaning/damage/etc but would only 'guarantee' it isn't a fake).

    As for the grade...from the pic, I would say MS67 no FBL. However, without in hand, I'm kind of thinking MS66 no fbl

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭✭✭

    58

    Successful BST with ad4400, Kccoin, lablover, pointfivezero, koynekwest, jwitten, coin22lover, HalfDimeDude, erwindoc, jyzskowsi, COINS MAKE CENTS, AlanSki, BryceM

  • hummingbird_coinshummingbird_coins Posts: 1,228 ✭✭✭✭✭

    66 no fbl

    Young Numismatist • My Toned Coins
    Life is roadblocks. Don't let nothing stop you, 'cause we ain't stopping. - DJ Khaled

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would go with 67 no FBL..... Nice Franklin half.... Cheers, RickO

  • brocmitchellbrocmitchell Posts: 96 ✭✭✭

    It's a stellar-looking coin however I see it as a 65+. No comment on FBL without a larger reverse picture.

  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,602 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Keep guessing,,,,,, I will reveal the grade late tonight,

    GrandAm :)
  • ShaunBC5ShaunBC5 Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Joey29 the slab is real (genuine) but the coin got a numerical grade as opposed to being labeled “Genuine” and given an “Unc Details” designation which would make it a “problem coin.” The clarification was to let us know there was no trick or oddness to search for in the GTG.

    I think it’s a 66 no fbl. I hope you got the 67!

  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,602 ✭✭✭✭✭

    :'( I will say it was rejected twice by CAC

    GrandAm :)
  • HalfDimeDudeHalfDimeDude Posts: 1,206 ✭✭✭✭✭

    66 no fbl

    "That's why I wander and follow La Vie Dansante"

  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,619 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @HalfDimeDude said:
    66 no fbl

    +1.

  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,602 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nobody is right yet,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    GrandAm :)
  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,427 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The luster looks funny... Altered surfaces?

    My YouTube Channel

  • hummingbird_coinshummingbird_coins Posts: 1,228 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @asheland said:
    The luster looks funny... Altered surfaces?

    @GRANDAM said:
    So guess the grade,,,,, it is straight graded and not in a genuine slab.

    Young Numismatist • My Toned Coins
    Life is roadblocks. Don't let nothing stop you, 'cause we ain't stopping. - DJ Khaled

  • DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,215 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS 64 Not FBL.

    If you do what you always did, you get what you always got.
  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,427 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @hummingbird_coins said:

    @asheland said:
    The luster looks funny... Altered surfaces?

    @GRANDAM said:
    So guess the grade,,,,, it is straight graded and not in a genuine slab.

    :|

    My YouTube Channel

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,427 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I read it too fast... :D

    My YouTube Channel

  • The_Dinosaur_ManThe_Dinosaur_Man Posts: 998 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The fields are nice, but Franklin's head has too many scuffs to make the MS-65 grade, so numerically it should be a 64, if not a 63. The bell lines are weak, I'm not sure if they would qualify for FBL for the date however.

    Custom album maker and numismatic photographer.
    Need a personalized album made? Design it on the website below and I'll build it for you.
    https://www.donahuenumismatics.com/.

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,427 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS64

    My YouTube Channel

  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,619 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63.

  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,174 ✭✭✭✭✭

    65 no fbl
    Jim


    When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln

    Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
  • JJMJJM Posts: 8,047 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64 no FBL

    👍BST's erickso1,cone10,MICHAELDIXON,TennesseeDave,p8nt,jmdm1194,RWW,robkool,Ahrensdad,Timbuk3,Downtown1974,bigjpst,mustanggt,Yorkshireman,idratherbgardening,SurfinxHI,derryb,masscrew,Walkerguy21D,MJ1927,sniocsu,Coll3tor,doubleeagle07,luciobar1980,PerryHall,SNMAM,mbcoin,liefgold,keyman64,maprince230,TorinoCobra71,RB1026,Weiss,LukeMarshall,Wingsrule,Silveryfire, pointfivezero,IKE1964,AL410, Tdec1000, AnkurJ,guitarwes,Type2,Bp777,jfoot113,JWP,mattniss,dantheman984,jclovescoins,Collectorcoins,Weather11am,Namvet69,kansasman,Bruce7789,ADG,Larrob37,Waverly
  • HalfDimeDudeHalfDimeDude Posts: 1,206 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 12, 2021 1:58PM


    just enlarged the image this looks to be a lamination issue or gass bubble.
    Some years minted Franklin has huge lamination issues.
    You can see this thru Liberty letters so 62 no fbl

    "That's why I wander and follow La Vie Dansante"

  • streeterstreeter Posts: 4,312 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I tended to a 6 until I took a good look at enlarged images.
    64

    Have a nice day
  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,602 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well, the photo doesn’t really look like it but it IS FBL, I have owned this coin for 20 years and always thought it was a nice coin. Sent it to CAC twice and failed. It was in a MS65 FBL holder, the 2nd time a sticker was attached telling why it failed.
    So WHY did it fail. CAC doesn’t pay attention to designations such as FS, FB, FBL is my understanding,,,, I could be wrong but I don’t think so,,, if I am wrong I am sure I will be horse whipped and raked over the coals by someone :s

    GrandAm :)
  • RampageRampage Posts: 9,489 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It could be an artifact of the lighting, but the parallel marks on the forehead, eyebrow, and cheek really gives me doubts that it is higher than a 64. The luster in the picture makes it seem like the coin is dripping with it. I like it.

  • Desert MoonDesert Moon Posts: 5,914 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My grade is 65 bc of the parallel marks forementioned. I would not buy it as an FLB but gorgeous Frankie nonetheless and great value at 65. Did it fail bc of those marks?

    My online coin store - https://desertmoonnm.com/
  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,602 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @spacehayduke said:
    My grade is 65 bc of the parallel marks forementioned. I would not buy it as an FLB but gorgeous Frankie nonetheless and great value at 65. Did it fail bc of those marks?

    No,

    GrandAm :)
  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 9,012 ✭✭✭✭✭

    66+

  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,602 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 12, 2021 6:28PM

    The coin was rejected by CAC for PVC. I couldn't see it but it had a very light film or haze to it so I guess that was it. After finding that out I sent it to PCGS for restoration and re-grade where it up graded to MS65+ FBL and was issued a new cert number. I know nobody called it FBL but in-hand there is a full line across,,,,, granted it is faint in the middle but the line is there. If PCGS didn't agree again (the 2nd time it was graded) they would not have given it the + upgrade. I always thought the coin deserved the + upgrade and I got it on the first try. :)

    GrandAm :)
  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice coin! Congrats!

  • Desert MoonDesert Moon Posts: 5,914 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If the film was removed and that was the issue, worth sending to CAC now in the new holder.

    Best, SH

    My online coin store - https://desertmoonnm.com/
  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,602 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @spacehayduke said:
    If the film was removed and that was the issue, worth sending to CAC now in the new holder.

    Best, SH

    Yes, that is the plan as soon as I get enough coins to send them.

    GrandAm :)
  • brocmitchellbrocmitchell Posts: 96 ✭✭✭

    The tuition associated with grading various coins and studying the grades seems to have paid off in the way of an accurate GTG. I saw the TV and "just knew" it was a 65+. I have a 1953-P in 65+. It seems the + can stand for "if it wasn't for that pesky mark it would be an MS66-67". My coin is immaculate except for some marks on franklin's head and a few reeding marks on the bell, If not for them the coin would be a point or two higher no doubt.

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 14,027 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @GRANDAM said:
    Well, the photo doesn’t really look like it but it IS FBL, I have owned this coin for 20 years and always thought it was a nice coin. Sent it to CAC twice and failed. It was in a MS65 FBL holder, the 2nd time a sticker was attached telling why it failed.
    So WHY did it fail. CAC doesn’t pay attention to designations such as FS, FB, FBL is my understanding,,,, I could be wrong but I don’t think so,,, if I am wrong I am sure I will be horse whipped and raked over the coals by someone :s

    I have asked CAC at least twice, whether they ignore designations. Each time, they told me that they do not ignore them.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • CopperLadCopperLad Posts: 52 ✭✭

    I see a 63.

  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,602 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 13, 2021 2:57PM

    @MFeld said:

    @GRANDAM said:
    Well, the photo doesn’t really look like it but it IS FBL, I have owned this coin for 20 years and always thought it was a nice coin. Sent it to CAC twice and failed. It was in a MS65 FBL holder, the 2nd time a sticker was attached telling why it failed.
    So WHY did it fail. CAC doesn’t pay attention to designations such as FS, FB, FBL is my understanding,,,, I could be wrong but I don’t think so,,, if I am wrong I am sure I will be horse whipped and raked over the coals by someone :s

    I have asked CAC at least twice, whether they ignore designations. Each time, they told me that they do not ignore them.

    Ok then. I am glad to know for sure as I had been told they did ignore them.

    The note only said PVC,,,, nothing about not liking the Bell Lines.

    Thanks

    GrandAm :)
  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,602 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CopperLad said:
    I see a 63.

    You are tough,,,,, could you post a photo of what you would call a MS65? Maybe one of your own coins?

    GrandAm :)
  • CopperLadCopperLad Posts: 52 ✭✭

    @GRANDAM said:

    @CopperLad said:
    I see a 63.

    You are tough,,,,, could you post a photo of what you would call a MS65? Maybe one of your own coins?

    I thought I saw a few nicks.
    Every time I am wrong does not equate malice.

  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,602 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 13, 2021 10:08PM

    GrandAm :)

Leave a Comment

BoldItalicStrikethroughOrdered listUnordered list
Format
SpoilerCodeQuote
Heading 2Heading 1
Emoji
:):D:(;):/:o:s:p:'(:|B):#:*<3o:)>:)
Url
Image
Align leftAlign centerAlign rightToggle HTML viewToggle full pageToggle lights
Drop image/file
Home • U.S. Coin ForumComment As ...