Have you had a NGC CAC not cross to PCGS?
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I haven’t owned too many NGC coins but those I have owned crossed at grade, with or without the sticker, or crossed one grade below, and then I upgraded it back to the original NGC grade with a PCGS regrade submission.
I’ve also had a few NGC CAC coins cross at grade to PCGS and then upgrade with a plus or by a full point. One actually upgraded by a full point AND a plus too, and another crossed from NGC 61 (without a sticker) to PCGS 61 and then with a few regrade submissions upgraded to PCGS 63+ and then got stickered!
It really all depends on the coin but having the CAC sticker in my opinion on the NGC coin certainly helps your chances.
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I know you mean well but this thread will likely get locked. Right or wrong CAC is a lightning rod of sorts and a question like this will only bring the same opposing opinions. Especially if it looks like a presupposition type question.
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I’ll let you know in a few months when I try to straight cross my 1942 NGC PF67 CAM 10c CAC. Even though the coin is fully deserving, it will probably take at least a couple of submissions at least if it does cross.
PCGS, NGC, and CAC do not have the same grading philosophy. Thus, to expect them to align consistently is unrealistic.
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Actually I'm not looking for opinions, Just actual experiences, please.
I had one not cross.
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Thanks, how many did you have cross?
I have had two NGC CAC not cross. Two attempts: both at grade AND at any grade (unless details) to PCGS.
Both times DNC.
They were both nice old gold in XF and they were both choice.
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I have never tried NGC CAC to PCGS, but I did have a PCGS CAC not cross to NGC.
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Yes, I had a CAC not cross from NGC to PCGS.
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Yep. When it would have been a top pop at PCGS, it didn't cross.
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Yes, then I sold the coin.
As did I.
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Yes. It did not cross at grade - was noted as 'scratched'.
I cracked some Morgans (not CAC) but NGC, and the coins graded the same at PCGS.
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I’ve attempted to crossover (7) NGC + CAC Seated Dollars. I was not willing to take a lower grade on any of them. (4) of them crossed at grade and (3) of them did not cross (no reason given but I strongly disagreed with them).
I don’t do cross NGC to PCGS unless going for upgrade (specify minimum grade on form). However I can see where someone might on ultra big ticket material.
But did cross an ICG Franklin 50c to PCGS at same grade.
I've had about everything happen. Cross, not cross, not CAC, then CAC at a higher grade. Go from a straight-grade CAC to a no-grade, go from a no-grade to a CAC at a higher grade than expected.....
It's all possible, and it depends on the coin, the alignment of Jupiter, what the grader had for breakfast, and the airspeed of an unladen swallow.
That said, knowing nothing about the coin, the odds are in your favor.
Sometimes people just want all PCGS holders.
Hmmm, I knew about the Jupiter and breakfast factors, but wasn't aware that bird aerodynamics played into it...
Have a nice NGC with motto Seated Quarter in MS 66 which DNC at same grade. I then sent it to CAC where it stickered. I still have the coin, and the only way I'd resubmit it is someone who knows more than i do thinks it would wind up in a 6 + holder.
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What was the old joke at their show tables; all coins will eventually make their way to PCGS
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I've had many NGC CAC coins not cross at grade, mostly bust half dollars.
Maybe if they stopped to smell the roses, they would have had time to cross
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I am one of those people.