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1798 Large Cent Questions?

CoinHoarderCoinHoarder Posts: 2,612 ✭✭✭✭✭
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Would this straight grade at PCGS?

What do you think it would grade?

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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,552 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes, and I think G4. Outside shot at G6.
    The only issue I see is that divot on the reverse. Otherwise a decent example. I don’t have my resources to check the Sheldon variety.

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,345 ✭✭✭✭✭

    VG details. Depends on how deep that reverse damage is.

  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    See the shiny spot center of the Obverse? I think it's just a wee bit too much to straight grade myself.

    @jmlanzaf said:
    VG details. Depends on how deep that reverse damage is.

  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Because it is a full date 1798 I do believe the TPGs will overlook the slight problems and straight grade this at least a solid G04

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,345 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @amwldcoin said:
    See the shiny spot center of the Obverse? I think it's just a wee bit too much to straight grade myself.

    @jmlanzaf said:
    VG details. Depends on how deep that reverse damage is.

    yes, the other side of the divot. I think details also. But I've been surprised before.

  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 9,016 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hell of a find did you dig it?

  • JimWJimW Posts: 564 ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 8, 2021 7:07PM

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @amwldcoin said:
    See the shiny spot center of the Obverse? I think it's just a wee bit too much to straight grade myself.

    @jmlanzaf said:
    VG details. Depends on how deep that reverse damage is.

    yes, the other side of the divot. I think details also. But I've been surprised before.

    Agree entirely - I would say unlikely to straight grade - but I've seen a lot worse problems on early large cents in (frankly unexplainable) straight grade holders.

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,345 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JimW said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @amwldcoin said:
    See the shiny spot center of the Obverse? I think it's just a wee bit too much to straight grade myself.

    @jmlanzaf said:
    VG details. Depends on how deep that reverse damage is.

    yes, the other side of the divot. I think details also. But I've been surprised before.

    Agree entirely - I would say unlikely to straight grade - but I've seen a lot worse problems on early large cents in (frankly unexplainable) straight grade holders.

    A lot of porosity gets overlooked, but impact damage less so.

  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "Agree entirely " - a STRONG NO!

    "I would say unlikely to straight grade" - a BIT of Doubt?

    "But I've seen a lot worse problems on early large cents in straight grade holders." - So who knows?

    Only one way to find out..................... :)

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  • CoinHoarderCoinHoarder Posts: 2,612 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CoinscratchFever said:
    Hell of a find did you dig it?

    Bought it at my LCS in 1989 for $35.

  • RayboRaybo Posts: 5,331 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like it.
    Next?

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,437 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @amwldcoin said:
    See the shiny spot center of the Obverse? I think it's just a wee bit too much to straight grade myself.

    @jmlanzaf said:
    VG details. Depends on how deep that reverse damage is.

    I noticed that. It looks like someone worked on this coin perhaps to remove a small spot. That said, this is a borderline problem. I've seen worse minor problems get a pass. The grading services sometimes make allowances for minor problems on well circulated coins from the 18th century.

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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,552 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Late die state S-153?
    Otherwise I’m just not figuring out the variety. I thought the obverse cud would make it fairly easy.

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,345 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:

    @amwldcoin said:
    See the shiny spot center of the Obverse? I think it's just a wee bit too much to straight grade myself.

    @jmlanzaf said:
    VG details. Depends on how deep that reverse damage is.

    I noticed that. It looks like someone worked on this coin perhaps to remove a small spot. That said, this is a borderline problem. I've seen worse minor problems get a pass. The grading services sometimes make allowances for minor problems on well circulated coins from the 18th century.

    Doesn't it line up with the impact on the reverse?

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,437 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @PerryHall said:

    @amwldcoin said:
    See the shiny spot center of the Obverse? I think it's just a wee bit too much to straight grade myself.

    @jmlanzaf said:
    VG details. Depends on how deep that reverse damage is.

    I noticed that. It looks like someone worked on this coin perhaps to remove a small spot. That said, this is a borderline problem. I've seen worse minor problems get a pass. The grading services sometimes make allowances for minor problems on well circulated coins from the 18th century.

    Doesn't it line up with the impact on the reverse?

    Yes, it does line up. It may or may not be a coincident. The hit on the reverse looks old while the light colored area on the obverse appears to be more recent.

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  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 8,169 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm on the fence for a straight grade... I think the reverse hit is heavy enough to have caused some uneven wear on the obverse. I've seen worse in holders though.

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  • jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 9,729 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Probably so and g-6

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think it will straight grade... Likely around a 6.... If not, just send it to me... I will forever appreciate it as a straight grade in my collection. ;) Cheers, RickO

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